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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Chili Red & Hydro

I just started using Hydro last week, and I love the ease of use and the protection it gives, but I've noticed that it makes my CR look a little...orange-ish? Has anyone else noticed this?
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Nope.

Try admiring it indoors?
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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No. Take off your orange sun glasses for better results.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Well Hydro in concentrated form is orange. Maybe you should use a little less and stop bathing and drenching your MINI in Hydro? Maybe you should try using Slick and see if your paint turns green! Or use some Mystique and maybe you'll get Purple Haze instead of CR! Be careful of using too much BW too. Wouldn't want the CR turning into a Watermelon Jolly Rancher either!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Well Hydro in concentrated form is orange. Maybe you should use a little less and stop bathing and drenching your MINI in Hydro?
Fair point, but I'm really not using that much.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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I said it in a sort of "tongue and cheek" sarcastic way =P. Hydro has polymers in it--just like Epic. It's going to deepen the color of your paint as well as making it look shiny. If you can post some pictures of this "orangy" look that would help. But there is no doubt about it--Hydro will affect the color of the paint in a positive way.

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Fair point, but I'm really not using that much.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Beware of photos of Chili Red.... given some lighting conditions, the photos can turn out to appear orangish-red.

FOR INSTANCE:



Same day, same time, out of direct sunlight:

 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Hydro makes you have more of a shiney shine (as opposed to a deep shine) & the reflectiveness of a shiney shine makes a finish look lighter which in turn makes the red look more orangey. If you want your chili red to stay deeper when you wax then do Epic only or if you really want amazing depth top your Epic off with a nice coat or 2 of carnauba. I recommend P21-S carnauba or my absolute favorite carnauba is Victoria Red Concours Wax The Victoria is a breeze to wipe on/off & you should apply a new coat (of carnauba only) approx every month. Epic topped with Victoria is the best of both worlds. You get the protection from the Epic & the amazing Deep Shine of a carnauba wax from the Victoria

ETA pic (it's in the shade a bit so it doesn't look quite this dark out in the sunlight but this is how I roll with Epic & Victoria wax)
 

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^ Who Dat ??


Hey, TT !!!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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CR, hate that I missed you at the dragon this year. Hope I can go next year...
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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CR, hate that I missed you at the dragon this year. Hope I can go next year...
Yeah, major bummer, Teresa !! But hey, I already have reservations for 2009 so if you can make it, I'll see you then !!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bamatt
Hydro makes you have more of a shiney shine (as opposed to a deep shine) & the reflectiveness of a shiney shine makes a finish look lighter which in turn makes the red look more orangey. If you want your chili red to stay deeper when you wax then do Epic only or if you really want amazing depth top your Epic off with a nice coat or 2 of carnauba. I recommend P21-S carnauba or my absolute favorite carnauba is Victoria Red Concours Wax The Victoria is a breeze to wipe on/off & you should apply a new coat (of carnauba only) approx every month. Epic topped with Victoria is the best of both worlds. You get the protection from the Epic & the amazing Deep Shine of a carnauba wax from the Victoria

ETA pic (it's in the shade a bit so it doesn't look quite this dark out in the sunlight but this is how I roll with Epic & Victoria wax)
I'm sold!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Here's another pic of my CR Cooper. I wash with Mystique, use Prima's polishes and wax, and use Griot's Speed Shine as a QD (it has Carnuba as an ingredient).

 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Hey Theresa--I know you love Carnauba and Victoria--but I'm still not sold on the improvements over just doing Epic. The lighting plays such an important factor when trying to capture "the look".

Victoria Wax
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Epic alone


Epic on an R56
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Regardless of the effect of Carnuba on top of synthetic Epic, this thread definitely proves one thing:


CHILI RED RULES !!!!!!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CR&PW&JB
Regardless of the effect of Carnuba on top of synthetic Epic, this thread definitely proves one thing:


CHILI RED RULES !!!!!!
Agreed! We're #1!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Agreed! We're #1!
Jet Black and Pepper White run a close second and third.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Hey Theresa--I know you love Carnauba and Victoria--but I'm still not sold on the improvements over just doing Epic. The lighting plays such an important factor when trying to capture "the look".
To me you can't capture any of the differences effectively in a picture. The difference between Hydro & carnauba is miles apart & very obvious to me. The difference between Epic alone or Epic topped with Victoria wax isn't as drastic but I can see it with my eye & if I have time to add 2-3 coats of Victoria on top of the Epic my finish looks so deep it almost feels like I can dive into my bonnet & swim in the finish. I will say Epic is the closest I have ever seen a synthetic get to looking like a carnauba but (on darker colors) if you top Epic with Hydro you basically ruin that look of depth & cross over the the reflective shiney shine side.
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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so topping Epic with Hydro makes it shinier?...I thought that Hydro would make Epic appear deeper and richer like carnuba does...
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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TT - no diving into the bonnet, bad dents will result!
 
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by umberto
so topping Epic with Hydro makes it shinier?...I thought that Hydro would make Epic appear deeper and richer like carnuba does...
In my opinion Hydro makes it look more like a synthetic shine which is what I call a shiney shine (you know all gleaming & reflective) but it's not nearly as shiney as the shine you get from say Klasse Sealant Glaze. But... I guess each person should judge for themselves because as we have seen everyone has differing opinions . It's so hard to get across what you are trying to say using just words on the page sometimes... ya know Is your definition of shiney shine the same as mine, hmmm


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TT - no diving into the bonnet, bad dents will result!
But it's so tempting...
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CR&PW&JB
Beware of photos of Chili Red.... given some lighting conditions, the photos can turn out to appear orangish-red.

FOR INSTANCE:


WHen was the last time it was fully waxed?
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Before that pic was taken ? A few weeks, if that. As an OCDetailer, that car never goes more than a few months without a complete detailing--clay, polish, wax, the whole nine yards.

I'm very sure that has nothing to do with the orangish-red appearance on the photo. I am sure that it's purely the sun's angle and the camera angle. I've taken other pics of that MINI in the sunlight and many of them turn out orangish looking.
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Nice trim ^^ I need some BW fast...
 
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Old May 17, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Odd you should mention that. The pic I used to show how orangish the CR paint can look to the camera is over 8 months old. But I just BW'd the trim again today. Good stuff.
 
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