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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
My process and tools are vastly different today than they were a couple of years ago.
Mine too!

10 months ago with an SUV = toss the auto-car-wash dude the keys and $25 while I sip a Starbucks and am oblivious to what's going on with the vehicle during it's monthly wash.

Today = Won't let a "auto-car-wash dude" anywhere near LilTiger. Must hand wash, wax, and detail on a weekly basis; get picky about even the smallest water spot, and, omg, dust better not even THINK about landing on her.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
im also explaining at the same time what is available out there that are proven more efficient
than the old skool chamois.
Do you know how many chamois have to be sacrified just to get one really good chamois???
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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LOL Tig!!!!

Originally Posted by chows4us
Do you know how many chamois have to be sacrified just to get one really good chamois???
Aint't that the truth, but that is another story. hehe.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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If you use a california car cover water blade you can cut your wipe time in half !
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
Ok kenchan. I see the fundamental issue, I *think*. I was not trying to imply my way is better. I was providing information. At least, that is what the intent was.

I did not realize it was a "this way is better than that way" discussion or I would have opted to stay out.

My apologies for being misleading.

Personally, I think synthetic sealers/waxes are great for light colors. Carnuaba does require more effort and has to be redone more often, but I prefer the look of it on dark paints. It aint't for the peson looking for the easy way to do it. That is for sure. It is strictly a personal preference.
the information part i didn't argue at all... like where you mentioned
high quality chamois lifts dirt away and holds it away from paint.
which might be true, but from what ive experienced and what i
physically see there's not much physical room for dirt to get lifted
up and away from the paint once it's in the chamois. another reason
why i never use those super thin synthetic chamois. i just don't trust
it.

i too like carnauba finish on dark colors (IB/B). although
PrimaEpic/Hydro is quite similar in terms of the deep wet look it can not
be achieved with polymer wax. i also agree that lighter color cars like
my silver G and colors that hide dust do better with polymer wax...
i use Griot's SprayOn wax as LSP and it enhances the gloss and looks
really really nice. just doesn't last that long though, but i dont
care. i dont mind nurishing it again and again over and over. feels so
good just spraying it on and admire the lustor.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Do you know how many chamois have to be sacrified just to get one really good chamois???
yah, and some people think chamois are camels. lol!!!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by trackster
If you use a california car cover water blade you can cut your wipe time in half !
wat's a cal car cover water blade? you referring to the
cal water blade? if so, if your car is waxed and give a
stream of rinse water at the very end, you shouldn't need to use it
at all...unless you're washing your car in the sun and quickly need to
dry sections at a time and Hydro it.

i actually washed my black legacy on sat in the sun at 80F and panels
hot to the touch as an experiment. i cooled the panels with water,
washed, immediately rinsed, and hydro'ed sections at a time. no
water spots and turned out real nice. just took maybe 7-8min longer
than usual. (no i did not use a water blade because i have a high
capacity MF drying towel) im glad i have Hydro for that. it's amazing
how that product can not only assist in the wax but also eliminate water
stains as you dry.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
My process and tools are vastly different today than they were a couple of years ago.
Mine too, Skuzzy. I used to use NuFinish, and thought I wuz rockin.

I have used chamois in the past, but I really like the waffle weaves a lot better. Maybe it's my technique or quality of chamois; just seem to get the water off faster and w/o streaking with the MF. As I've aged, I've had to learn to take the easier, if not the traditional, approach to problem solving.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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I cannot remember what I used before. I have thrown away more product than I have kept. At one time I had twelve test strips on my car to try and find the best combination of stuff to hold up in this stupid weather we have here.

I think that is why I have always taken the, "what works for you is best" approach to this. Weather has a lot to do with the success or failure of a process. People in moderate climates also have a wider array of choices which all work pretty well.

I just do not see one process or product combination which would have the same results all over the planet.

And I will try waffle weaves for drying again. I have some I do use for various parts of the car. I bought them, I will use them. The chamois is first line of attack and also to catch any water being blown out with the air compressor.
 

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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Know what you mean Skuzzy. Was reared in the country w/white chalk-like roads (an improvement over black dirt roads w/o any topping). It was wasted effort to keep the outside of our cars clean. One trip to town resulted in a white-dust-covered vehicle.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Ahhh,..caliche roads. I remember them well. I was raised on a farm and we used caliche for a ton of stuff. Made for good packing in land based cisterns so they would hold water longer.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
Ahhh,..caliche roads. I remember them well. I was raised on a farm and we used caliche for a ton of stuff. Made for good packing in land based cisterns so they would hold water longer.
At first I thought you were addressing septic tanks. Don't even want to go there. Brings back nightmares.
 
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