I dunt(tm) think the analogy holds water kenchan. I call it an electric squeegee. It is a dryer. Two pressure rollers driven by an electric motor to squeeze the water out of towels and chamois. Takes about 2 seconds to run through a large chamois.

Actually, some paint is tough as nails (check Volvo's latest) and some is soft as butter (Mini is pretty soft). The Lexus is between the two. Although, one thing about the Lexus paint. It holds a wax job longer than any paint I have ever seen before. I can go three times as long between wax jobs on it as I can on any other vehicle.

When I paint, I use DuPont acrylics with a hardener which gives it polyurethane-like hardness. Looks like a mirror when I am done and is easy to keep that way. One day I will expand my paint booth so I can do an entire car in it. Right now I can only do sections or pieces.

 

I've used natural and artificial chamois. DP's microfiber waffle drying cloths beat both hands down. Mine isn't white anymore.... Works great with Hydro!

 

Okay, so it's like having a wood stove and an electric log splitter.

 

Which would you rather roll around in ...

A big pile of Monster Fluffies or a pile of chamois nuff said

 

don't they used whipped cream anymore??

 

I have found that whipped cream doesn't offer enough support

 

If ya like to do that sort of thing, then go for it. I prefer to use them to dry the car. And Sissy, I have no doubt that the fluffy with Hydro is a good thing. But as a carnuaba guy, I cannot use Hydro.

And I am not too crazy about the micro-fiber towels for drying. Again, I really do not dry my car. If you are drying you car with a chamois, then you are working too hard for no return.

Like I always say, like what you use, use what you like. I found out a long time ago it was rather silly to try and tell others any method was better than another method.

 

i dont think you got my point. i was referring to your antient drying
technique but yet have modern 'electricity.'

i know what those wringers look like btw.

 

You are right. I dunt(tm) understand it. Saves wear and tear on the chamois, it is faster, and easier on my hands.

When I tried a fluffy, I found I had to wring out to keep the weight of it down, and it worked well for that too.

I figured you knew what I was talking about. I just do not get the comparison nor understand why it would be preferred to hand wring it out. Unless you do not wring it out, which is a possibility. Good for if that is the case.

 

i completely agree. chamois is too much work and maintenance.

 

Are you referring to the MonsterFluffy? if so that is not a drying towel.
that is a wax removal/buffing towel. that's probably why you were not
getting the same level of satisifaction we are getting from MF towels
dedicated for drying. (ie: waffle weave or other MF drying towels).

i do not need to wring any of my MF drying towels as it has higher
capacity to hold water than chamois.

 

Skuzzy!! Of all people..... you mean you don't roll around in the MF Fluffies to get your "scent" all over them and then carasse and dry Romi with them? You have to mark your territory before you leave her alone in parking lots!

For the first time ever....you disappoint me

 

tig- are you peeking through that small window of yours?

 

I think he was referring to the whipped cream..... In which case, I still think he disappointed you....

 

Trying to find a term so I do not have to type 'waffle weave drying micro-fiber towel' all the time.

And I used a 'drying' type micro-fiber towel. It got too heavy and was too much work to haul around over the car surface so I put it through the wringers. Then after I was done, I put it through the wringers again.

And the word is 'ancient'.

Tig, I do not own any Monster fluffies. As I use an orbital buffer, I prefer smaller towels for buffing. I never hand buff, except in areas where the orbital buffer cannot reach and I use micro-fiber wrapped foam pads. I apply the carnuaba by hand, but use micro-fiber wrapped foam pads for that too.

LynnEl, that is why people should use what they like.

I like my process for the mere fact I never have to deal with swirl marks.

 

WW MF or WWMF

 

Sounds like something in a personals ad --- that I would NOT respond to.

 

Yeah, that is what I though too when I typed it as an acronym. I was going,.."LynnEl will take that down a path we do not want to go."....

 

Well we talk about lube, monster fluffies, & such around here so it souldn't bother anyone

 

you mentioned in your previous posts that you shouldn't be drying
with a chamois in the first place (which im assuming you are saying with
proper rinse technique the water will sheet off leaving only very little
water to dry off)...but then you mention your MF drying towel was
"too heavy" soaking up too much water. there's some inconsistencies
in your posts and not sure if you're a great detailer knowing how to
rinse and work the chamois, or you are a confused detailer thinking
the chamois is still yet the #1 drying tool when the MF towel has
much higher capacity to hold water. you should not have to wring the
MF towel even once if you rinsed correctly sheeting most of the water
off first.

and having a hard time following your description on how you're buffing...

for carnauba Best of Show, i use my RO to apply. then use my platinum
MF towel to remove the haze by hand. if needed, i take my fresh monster
fluffy to buff at the end. that's it. nothing else. very simple.

oh yah, and no hydro over the carnauba.

 

kenchan, the main parts of the body are virtually dry, but the rest of the places where water gathers still needs a good wipe while using the air compressor to blow out the water. I just found a chamois easier to work with. Nothing more to it. Yes, I have to wring it out more often. No biggy.

Ok,..buffing. I have pads I made up so I can exchange the micro-fiber covers on them. That way I can wash them without have to wash the foam backer. They attach with velcro to the PC.

When I am done, I take the towels off the pads and wash them. When they are dry, I put them back on the pads to be used next time.

Damn it takes too much work to talk to you. Its easier just to detail the car.

 

Your statements are strong so i just wanted to be clear; not that
im saying your statements are incorrect. im also explaining at the
same time what is available out there that are proven more efficient
than the old skool chamois. if it's your preference to dry your car
with a chamois, that's great. but for anyone looking for a quick drying
tool, there's just no comparison to the efficiency of the MF drying
towels. (personally, i don't like washing and drying cars...so i want
to dry the car quickly and efficiently with no fuss and then move onto
the next steps).

gotcha on the pad bonnets... should've said "bonnets" from the beginning!

doesn't take much to talk to me as i am a very simple guy.
when there's confusion i speak up to clarify. i don't like posters that
say 'it's better cause i said so' non-sense. that just turns forums
into garbage.

 

I've always applied polish/wax by hand too, but I'm not so old that I won't try new ways to shine up a car.

I finally applied Epic with my RO because Dudette challenged me that my paint would suck in five years if I didn't wax instead of "just" using Hydro. It was a LOT OF WORK. Had to stand on a stool to reach the middle of the roof, and nearly fell off the darned thing. Thank goodness I didn't scratch the paint with the RO. Hafta admit, FLO looks good. When I got off work Friday and started to get in the car, I noticed what appeared to be SWIRLS on the roof. Nearly had a major heart attack. First thought to cross my mind was "shudda stayed with Hydro!" Whew! The "swirls" were spider webs.

 

^^ i use a small step stool when i do the roof.

i recommend the ones Target has with a hole in the middle so you can
pick it up with your one hand without having to reach down, picking it up
at the side of the step stool loosing balance and crashing into something.

Epic is nice, i will apply it on my commuters in the fall. until then, it's
only Hydro for them for me.

 

Ok kenchan. I see the fundamental issue, I *think*. I was not trying to imply my way is better. I was providing information. At least, that is what the intent was.

I did not realize it was a "this way is better than that way" discussion or I would have opted to stay out.

My apologies for being misleading.

Personally, I think synthetic sealers/waxes are great for light colors. Carnuaba does require more effort and has to be redone more often, but I prefer the look of it on dark paints. It aint't for the peson looking for the easy way to do it. That is for sure. It is strictly a personal preference.

Sissy, I try new things all the time too. My process and tools are vastly different today than they were a couple of years ago.