We've got a bone stock '07 MCSC that we could bring out.

 

well, seems you have a plethora of stock JCW's to choose from. 'Sides, my will no longer be stock as of next Tuesday YAY.

 

I got a 03 MCS 6spd Stock.

 

How many miles do you consider broken in? After this weekend I should have ~900miles on my 07 r56 MCS. I'd donate it to the cause.

 

1450 is broken in I think.

 

You can put me on the list...stock 06 JCW.
I'll follow-up with the PM you requested.
DJ

 

First post updated. If we're going to dyno a R50, I'd also want to do a non-S R56. Anyone got one?

--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net

 

The 25th is fine with me. I'm free for any time all day. If it matters, the date and mileage is 2005 MCSC about 27k miles right now.

 

I can't do that saturday. Sunday yes.

 

Okay, it's come to my attention that my original date is the date of an official DCMM club event. Lemme check in with the organizers and make sure I don't step on any toes. Stay tuned.

--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net

 

Let me know what day you want to do it, and I can see what the calendar can do as well.

 

I actually won't be able to make it on the 25th, but I'll have my husband bring it out. He loves driving the Mini!

 

Is this still happening?

 

Do you want another stock GP?

 

is there any difference between the 02-04 and 05-06 coopers? (non s)
just wondering- if there is a desire for an 06 cooper- bone stock- let me know : )

 

I believe there was... the manual transmission changed, at the very least. Not 100% sure about any power changes, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Of course, this test is about power, and most MC buyers do not focus on power, so the testing will probably all be on the MCS models.

The ideal "comprehensive" list for this, in my opinion - all 100% stock of course (with regard to the powertrain):

02-04 MCS 6-speed
02-04 JCW MCS 6-speed (dealer installed JCW-210)
05/06 MCS Auto
05/06 MCS 6-speed
05/06 JCW MCS 6-speed (dealer installed JCW-210)
06 JCW MCS 6-speed (factory JCW)
06 JCW GP MCS 6-speed
07 MCS Automatic
07 MCS 6-speed
07 JCW MCS 6-speed (dealer installed Stage 1 JCW)

NOTE: The automatic transmission was not available for the MCS from 2002-2004, hence its absence from the list. Also, JCW was not available for any automatic, so there would potentially only be 2 automatics there for the test (one 05/06 & one 07).

WHEW! Long list. The question is, can we get stock iterations of all 10 MCSes there on the same day? Tall order, but it'd be really great if we could.

 

i think the cooper owners are into power- they just know that it doesnt all come from the car ; )

 

Updated first post with new (and firm) date! To the people who responded early, I'm sorry for the date change. I hope you can make the September 22 date, but if not it looks like we will at least have some kind of quorum of cars.

Edge, I'm going to stick with my original modest goal of testing a few different cars, mostly the MCS variants. And I'm not going to try to cover all the possible versions. I don't want to dyno any autos -- from experience, they behave unpredictably on the dyno, and that can use up time. This test, in my mind, is NOT an attempt to make an encyclopedic reference of the exact power output of every available factory option. Instead, I hope to learn a little about the general power and torque of the main different types of cars. In my mind, those are MCS, JCW, and GP. And then the newest, the R56 MCS. If we have time to toss in a Cooper just for kicks, that's fine. But as mentioned, I'd say there'd be the most interest from the MCS crowd, and that's my focus.

If the response is great and we want to come back and do a follow-up test, the results will be pretty comparable; the dyno roller has a known mass and readings on a given car are very stable over time, as long as the temperature isn't radically different from one session to another.

--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net

 

I still won't be there, but the hubster will be with the Mini.

 

I should be able to make it then. Oh, and I'm currently up over 1400miles, so she'll be well broken in by that date.

 

Event added to calendar. What time does this event start?

 

Gotcha, no autos. Makes sense.OK. I would recommend sticking with a 2006 factory-installed JCW then, just to ensure maximum consistency. That leaves my car out (dealer-installed JCW), but I don't mind. That would be cool - but preferably a 2005 or even 2006 Cooper (5-speed), for the "last revision" before the R56.

Here would be the condensed "ideal" list then:

06 R50 MC 5-speed
06 R53 MCS 6-speed
06 R53 JCW MCS 6-speed (factory JCW, not dealer)
06 R53 JCW GP MCS 6-speed
07 R56 MCS 6-speed

Does that look right, Dan?

The Stage 1 JCW kit for the R56 is so brand spanking new that it would probably be hard to locate one in time, but it should be noted for a future follow up test if possible!

Obviously 05s could substitute for 06s (except for the two JCW variants), but it really would be nice to have them all from the same model year.

 

Hey Dan,
My R56 Cooper S is totally stock with 16inch Bridgespoke wheels. You have my email, I am the one who was asking about the springs a couple of days ago. Still thinking about them! I can volunteer my car assuming I am around that weekend. Any chance of a test drive of the Mach V MINI R56 to see how the suspension feels?
Mike

 

Sorry I won't be able to attend on Sept. 22nd I will be in SC at the BMW driving school for two days !!

 

I'll probabbly be there, just to hang.