D Stock Twins, v6 mustang/camaro & lots of bmw into dstreet
#4
I don't have any hard data, but I feel like the Mini is very strong in digs from ~25-40mph, and an excellent slalom car.
In sweepers it's only on 7" wheels / 215s and it only uses three of them, that's where the twins will make up ground.
I think you're referring to the EcLOLboost Mustang - the v6 doesn't have a performance option. It's fast, but it's a big, wide, heavy girl and needs some room to work. Curious to see how fast Scroggs is in the 4-cyl Camaro, that chassis seems better than the Ford, but the motor doesn't seem as good.
Should be a fun season, but if I were jacket hunting I'd pick the FR-S until proven wrong.
In sweepers it's only on 7" wheels / 215s and it only uses three of them, that's where the twins will make up ground.
I think you're referring to the EcLOLboost Mustang - the v6 doesn't have a performance option. It's fast, but it's a big, wide, heavy girl and needs some room to work. Curious to see how fast Scroggs is in the 4-cyl Camaro, that chassis seems better than the Ford, but the motor doesn't seem as good.
Should be a fun season, but if I were jacket hunting I'd pick the FR-S until proven wrong.
#5
at the nationals there was a v6 running FS and in the top rankings they are fast with a good driver
in slaloms I've watched our "x" CS twins go so fast the rear end is kicking out every cone, if I do that its the front end pushing and I have to drop speed to get it to bite, big diff in strategy
in slaloms I've watched our "x" CS twins go so fast the rear end is kicking out every cone, if I do that its the front end pushing and I have to drop speed to get it to bite, big diff in strategy
#6
The 3rd place FS Mustang at least was the 4-cyl. I'm not 100% sure on the others, but I don't think there were any v6 cars at nats. The biggest wheel on the V6 is 17x7.5, where the Ecoboost with performance pack gets you 9" wide wheels, the limited slip, and the hotter suspension.
The Twins are fantastically balanced sports cars that do absolutely everything well - except accelerate from a dig.
The Twins are fantastically balanced sports cars that do absolutely everything well - except accelerate from a dig.
#7
The 3rd place FS Mustang at least was the 4-cyl. I'm not 100% sure on the others, but I don't think there were any v6 cars at nats. The biggest wheel on the V6 is 17x7.5, where the Ecoboost with performance pack gets you 9" wide wheels, the limited slip, and the hotter suspension.
The Twins are fantastically balanced sports cars that do absolutely everything well - except accelerate from a dig.
The Twins are fantastically balanced sports cars that do absolutely everything well - except accelerate from a dig.
Ford Performance Packs are not ordered with a vehicle. You buy them at the Ford Parts Counter separately, and you have the option to install them yourself/independent mechanic with no warranty, or a Ford Certified Technician for a 12 month warranty.
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#8
You're thinking of the Ford Motorsports Catalog stuff, and indeed that's not Street Class legal. The Ecoboost performance pack is completely Street class legal, it's just an option package:
Mark Scroggs ran his Ecoboost Mustang to third in FS in Lincoln, against all the V8 cars:
He ran on Th/Fri, so didn't quite have the same conditions as us in DS, but he would have clobbered the DS field by over 2 seconds:
Now Mark is one of the best in the country, hands down. But still. He sold the Mustang and will be driving a 2016 Camaro 4-cyl in DS next year. The Chevy is lighter than the Ford and has a better chassis. So look out.
And I still say a Twin is going to be even faster than that on almost every national-style course. The Mini still is alive on small local lots where it's size, weight, and great low-speed thrust will still work in it's favor.
Mark Scroggs ran his Ecoboost Mustang to third in FS in Lincoln, against all the V8 cars:
He ran on Th/Fri, so didn't quite have the same conditions as us in DS, but he would have clobbered the DS field by over 2 seconds:
Now Mark is one of the best in the country, hands down. But still. He sold the Mustang and will be driving a 2016 Camaro 4-cyl in DS next year. The Chevy is lighter than the Ford and has a better chassis. So look out.
And I still say a Twin is going to be even faster than that on almost every national-style course. The Mini still is alive on small local lots where it's size, weight, and great low-speed thrust will still work in it's favor.
#9
You're thinking of the Ford Motorsports Catalog stuff, and indeed that's not Street Class legal. The Ecoboost performance pack is completely Street class legal, it's just an option package:
Mark Scroggs ran his Ecoboost Mustang to third in FS in Lincoln, against all the V8 cars:
He ran on Th/Fri, so didn't quite have the same conditions as us in DS, but he would have clobbered the DS field by over 2 seconds:
Now Mark is one of the best in the country, hands down. But still. He sold the Mustang and will be driving a 2016 Camaro 4-cyl in DS next year. The Chevy is lighter than the Ford and has a better chassis. So look out.
And I still say a Twin is going to be even faster than that on almost every national-style course. The Mini still is alive on small local lots where it's size, weight, and great low-speed thrust will still work in it's favor.
Mark Scroggs ran his Ecoboost Mustang to third in FS in Lincoln, against all the V8 cars:
He ran on Th/Fri, so didn't quite have the same conditions as us in DS, but he would have clobbered the DS field by over 2 seconds:
Now Mark is one of the best in the country, hands down. But still. He sold the Mustang and will be driving a 2016 Camaro 4-cyl in DS next year. The Chevy is lighter than the Ford and has a better chassis. So look out.
And I still say a Twin is going to be even faster than that on almost every national-style course. The Mini still is alive on small local lots where it's size, weight, and great low-speed thrust will still work in it's favor.
It's kind of like the Performance package for the GTI that includes LSD etc for GS.