Has anyone purchased the emergency spare wheel and tire that they sell on Bavarian Autosports website? Will it fit under the folding floor in our 2013 CM? Also, does anyone know of a better solution than the lifting jack they sell for $169.95?

 

I doubt it fits under the floor. Link?

 

The website is bavauto.com, and if you search for "e60 emergency spare wheel and tire" you will see it. Thanks.

 

Chrunck, thanks for responding. Looks like you are correct. It's not the folding type of compact spare, so it will not fit under the floor.

 

I ended up going the Smithwerks route...on Ebay I bought a never used 1998 SLK collapsable spare ($150 delivered), as well as the adapter from TDNparts ($156 delivered), and I'm going to get a cheap floor jack that will fit under the floor. Amazon sells what looks like a nice lug wrench made by Dorman for $13. So for about $350 I'll have a backup in case I damage a tire to the point that the Fix a Flat doesn't work. I already carry a 12 volt inflator for use with the Fix a Flat, as well as a tire repair kit.

The flat I got last week made me start thinking about potentially getting stuck in a remote area, such as when we go skiing at Sugarloaf in Maine. The good news with last weeks's flat was that it was repairable. If I still had the Bridgestone run flats, a replacement from Tire Rack would have been about $300, I would have had to wait for it to arrive (although here in New Jersey UPS Ground delivers next day from their Delaware warehouse), plus I wonder if it would have not been a good idea to mix a brand new tire with the three others that have 13k miles on them, especially with all wheel drive.

 

The tire and wheel and adapter arrived, and I have to say that I am absolutely impressed! The tire and wheel fit under the floor as if it was designed for it. The fit is so perfect that it will not be moving around, even during spirited driving. I ended up leaving the adapter loosely bolted to the tire and wheel so the adapter will not be floating around in the storage bay. The adapter even arrived with one of the folding lug wrenches sold at Harbor Freight given that it includes both 17 and 19mm sockets, as both sizes are needed.

For those with 2013 and 2014 model year cars, you need to purchase a jack to carry with you given that the factory stopped including them with the car. Rather than spend more than $100 at the dealer for one, I purchased a Torin model number 82012, the one with the plastic carrying case. The carrying case fits snugly into the storage bay right next to the tire and wheel. Amazon sells it for $34.99, and Pep Boys has it on sale for $29.

Given that we have slightly oversized tires on the car (225/50/18) this jack could not lift the car high enough to be able to dismount the wheels, but a couple of 1x6 boards side-by-side under the jack did the trick. I am not sure if the boards would have been needed if we had the factory size 225/45/18 tires on the car, but the boards would not be a bad thing to have if you needed to jack the car on soft ground.

A 12 volt air pump to inflate the collapsible spare is also needed.

All in all, not a cheap solution, but very "elegant". Even my GF was impressed how the wheel and tire and adapter and carrying case for the jack fit under the floor as if they had originally been designed to be there.

Smithwerks, I hope you are reading this. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

 

I can't find a Space Master spare with part # 1704010502. But I did find one on ebay with the same numbers stamped on the spokes (2034012002 4.58x15H2ET12) and the same tire size (165-15 89P) as the pics in this thread. But it's for a 2003 SLK and has a different part number (1705840538).

I'm hoping it's the same wheel and tire but MB just incremented the part number. Can anyone confirm?

 

so basically any SLK spare? i see alot of 2003 ones on ebay like so:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/03-MERCEDES-SLK-VREDESTEIN-SPACE-MASTER-WHEEL-SPARE-TIRE-1705840538-MJ0203-/331038156490?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&hash=item4d136966ca&vxp=mtr
same thang?

 

OK people, I looked and looked and like a lot of people could not find a 1998-2000 Mercedes colllapsible spare - part #1704010502 in the US. The only place I could locate one was in the UK - and the shipping cost made purchasing unrealistic.
I had purchased the TDN adapter and they recommend part# A1704010502
So after some research I took a chance and purchased Merecedes part
#A 170 584 05 38 for $150 shipped.
(Often people drop the "A" on the part number).

This collapsible tire & rim A 170 584 05 38 fits on my 2012 All4 Countryman - See pictures! No Problem clearing the brakes.
The specs:
Rim Specs - Part#A 170 584 05 38 4.58x15 ET12 - using 165-15/89P
Rim Specs - Part#A 170 401 05 02 4.5x15 ET12 - (using 165-15)

Both are 5x112.
The Centerbore of the rim is the same.
1998-2000 SLK - Mercedes Part# 1704010502
2001+ SLK - Mercedes Part# 1705840538

There are quite a few of these for sale on Ebay - for $150.00 -$ 200.00
Keep in mind you will need a 17mm and 19mm Deep socket for the lug nuts and bolts with the TDN adapter.
I prefer the Harbor Freight 3Ft breaker bar to to make the job easy.
Thank you to all the others who have contributed info.

 

A few more pics...

 

Read post #34 and #35.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post3820771

 

Like you, I knew that model years 2001 and after call for a different part number, and was concerned they would not fit, although I suspected they would given that the changes to the car for 2001 were not major. Glad it worked out for you.

But there were major changes to the car for 2004, and I would not assume 2004+ model years fit until someone confirms it.

Also, a used car parts dealer on ebay confirms that for 2001-2003, the SLK 230, SLK 320, and SLK 32 all use the same part. In addition he says that 2003 C240's and C320's use the same part, too.

 

Agreed, that is why I would stick to Part#1705840538 for years 2001+.

 

Hi, I need your advice urgently since I want to buy the spare saver tire. I have a Countryman All4 2011 - Tire 18". what happen with the tire size?? could you tell me if the spare part 1998-2000 SLK - Mercedes Part# 1704010502 or 2001+ SLK - Mercedes Part# 1705840538, will fit in the Countryman All4 with 18" tires?

 

Yes spare #170 584 05 38 will fit. I have 18" rims on my MINI..... You will need to buy the TDN adapter.

 

yeap!, I have just requested.... so... Its works and fit perfectly!!!!
Now... I will looking on MB local distributor if they have it in the shop.... buying from eBay UK or USA ist affordable (shipping cost is too expensive).
Thks for all

 

I just picked on up from eBay for $120 with shipping in the USA. I saw lots in the UK too.

 

Wow...didn't know my idea took off....Glad you guys all followed suit!

 

I just got the adapter from TDNparts.com and I picked up a MB spare, part# 1704010502. I noticed that the adapter kit came with "5x M12x1.5 Cone-Seat stud 19mm open end NUTS (to secure your spare wheel to the adapter)" as promised.

My concern is that the MB spare wheel seems to be set up to accept Ball seat type lugs. After a little research, I've seen that the the OEM MB were 12mmx1.5 ball seat lug bolts.

Were there different cone seat lug bolts that were to be used on the spare or what. Do I need to find different nuts to use?

I've sent the tdn folks an email asking them but haven't heard back. Just wondering if anyone else knows.

 

In addition to reading a bunch online that MB lug bolts for the SLK were ball seat, i also found that a 1998 MB SLK230 replacement bolt was Dorman 99982.1
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-35454-999821.aspx

I found what seems to be a comparable open lug nut in Dorman 98995.1 (aka 611-144 i think)
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-8143-611-144.aspx
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-11003-989951.aspx

I got confirmation from Dorman that the bolt has a 11.7mm radius and the nut a 12mm radius. and the two nuts above are equivalent.

Anyway, the ball seat nuts seemed to fit my wheel much better than the conical nuts supplied with the adapter. Maybe this is overkill, as the spare won't be seeing much use (i hope), but i'd rather things fit as best as they can.

With these nuts, i finally installed the spare, pumped it up, and gave it a test ride around my neighborhood. The tire did stick out of the wheel well a bit more than the stock, and looked a bit funny, but it made it home ok. Not sure how it will perform at higher speeds (only got it up to like 20-25). Anyone else have any experience with actual use of their spares?

 

Did TDNparts.com offer any comments regarding the M12x1.5 Cone-Seat stud 19mm open end NUTS (supplied with their kits) vs. the ball seat nuts you hunted down from Dorman?
I have the TDN adapter also.
Vince

 

I did not hear back. Oh well.

 

We find this solution works really well. http://www.detroittuned.com/countryman-spare-tire/

 

i have installed Wheel Stud kit from WMW http://www.waymotorworks.com/m14x1.2...ountryman.html


so will the stud stuck out from the TDNparts.com adapter ?? if the stud stuck out of the adapter then i cant mount the spare master at all.

 

I've got my adapter loosely mounted on my spare in the boot. It measures about 35 mm thick.

Because of the way the mounting surface is not continuously flush on the inside of the spare I was able to slide in about 40-44 mm of a bolt before it bottomed out.

This still might not be enough clearance for your studs as the link you gave says:
"The wheel studs are 65mm overall length with 52mm protruding from the hub. "