Okay, newbie question...

I'm just trying to figure out how to get my Cooper going fast without bogging. A little tire spin would be awesome. I think I only did it once by fluke during my one year ownership of this vehicle.

This is my current method that doesn't work:

I turn off the ASC. I rev up to 3000 rpm and let go of the clutch kind of fastish slow if that makes sense and I always get the bog or a "ca chunk" sound which is probably bad, so how can I avoid that?

Your input is much appreciated! Thanks!

 

rev up to 4000 and drop the clutch fast, it's really not good for your car though.

 

4000......

heck take it to redline and then slide your foot off the clutch sideways -- BOOM off you go like a rocket

However you will be replacing your clutch and various transaxle parts on a regular basis Not to mention tires

 

Practice, practice, practice

 

But will it make that clunk sound though?

hehehe... Okay red line that's too nuts! A LITTLE tire spin!!!

yeah i didn't think it was good for the clutch but just wanna do it some times for fun! Well as long as it doesn't make that clunk sound eeks!

 

Hey Razo, with the Cooper not having a lot of power to start off with, and with the added "throttle by wire", it has a delay. You're doing the right thing by turning the DSC off. Let me ask you this. What year is your Cooper? I'm assuming it is a 2003 or 2002 with a R65 gearbox. The clunk you say you get tells me this might be the case. Mine does it too. The best thing to do is to do what Asodestrom stated and practice. You can get the RPMs and clutch release just right, but it takes some practice and getting used to. Also, when I got rid of my heavy stock wheels for a set of Kazeras from TireRack, I noticed an improvement immediately.

 

I tap quick to 3k then start releasing the clutch until it starts to grab then hold it for quick sec, then dump the gas and go WOT, then let clutch all the way out. Shifting to second quick but allowing the revs to be on the way down so u can catch second right on while going WOT again. . .

usually not spinning the tires will get u launching faster, so power = traction is key. . .

I can usually beat out most cars without a V8 on the start; too much torque there.

But I think the key is from the dead stop, it's all clutch work, and if u have someone else driving ur car from time to time, like a girlfriend, like me , u need to work the clutch differently cause it changes with drivers. She doesn't like me taking off so fast .

If that doesn't work try a shot of nitrous

 

Can you some how rephrase this whole procedure?? I kinda get it...but not really. Explain more please!

 

You can make smooth shifts without the clunk...you just need to practice. Figure out which rpm works best for your style of driving, then practice, practice, practice. You'll figure it out!

 

Right, Clo! What I mean is that the clutch is not a switch. Work it right and u can transfer a lot of power.

Try to keep the revs up, let them drop while u introduce clutch, drop gas. Once she catches it's all up to the engine, nothing u can do to make that faster, without cash, son. $$$

 

Oooooh!!!! I see! Okay then it's not me then. Thats good to know. Yeah i have an 2002. I better stop try to burn out then hehehe...

 

Thanks for explaining! I'll try that next time. Vroom Vroom Vroom!!!

 

For autocross, I usually rev to around 3500 and slip the clutch a bit as I let out... Of course, DSC is off... I used to get a bit of wheelspin on the first run on Azenis, but after the 1st run they hooked up quite a bit more and I got less... Now, with the Michelin Pilot Sport Cups I get almost 0 wheelspin at launch. Car comes out of the shoot FAST!

 

Oh one more question. So you said shift to second quick? At what RPM?

 

I'll let the RPMs drop right around a thousand during the shift. That way it's right where it should be for second. A lot of old timers (no offense ) would double clutch there, which just gives the engine time to drop RPMs. This is not neccesary in cars newer than 30 yo.

 

Oh I meant when I'm in first. when I punch it do I go all the way to 6000-6500RPM and then shift? Or is there a spot in lower rpm range where when I shift to 2nd it will pull the hardest? Damn I need some driving lessons!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5geyN...=mini%20cooper

 

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MINI snuff film!

 

Hello, everyone, I own a 2003 MC, I intalled a header not long ago and about 50 miles down the road the MIL came on, what would be the best way to fix this, aside from installing the original exhaust system back on? Thanks in advance.

 

I believe you will have a mil if the cat is not installed. That vid was cool but WTF?

 

Normally one would let the tires do the slipping rather than the clutch. Slipping the clutch is a torque mulitplier but you can get the same effect by properly spinning the tires (not too much, not too little). With that said, each car is different and it depends on the conditions (wet/dry, passengers, tires, etc). I also have a MCS so I can't give specific advice but here is the Road and Track Article and they always give details on how they got the fastest accel in the "data panel" (http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/...ini_cooper.pdf) here is what it say: "The Mini Cooper spins its tires easily off the line at the drag strip. Launching the car with the engine holding at 3500 rpm gives the best acceleration time of the day.with precision."

 

They are pretty much dead on. I did a run today videotaping myself, and launching at 3000rpm the tires would spin a bit and hook up, but RPM then drops to about 2400, which makes the car bog down very slightly. 3500-4000rpm is right on the money for the perfect launch in a Non S I think, depending on your tires and the road surface grip of course.

 

Maybe you can show me when we go for the run in August?

 

Okay I just got MTHed. I thought it would be easier to spin my tires but it seems like the ASC is even more sensitive! Even if I turned it off! At first I thought something was wrong, I got my friend to try it and I was watching from the outside. He takes off but the calipers clamps on to the rotors right before he goes making a clonk clonk sound. Is that normal?