Oh, I agree... I wasn't saying it doesn't work but rather by the times you could go fast enough to make a difference, you would be in triple digits. (100+)

Though measurable in some infinite amount, I doubt running the dragon at 45mph would make a car "handle better" because of it.

Mark

 

I can not disagree at all, but it wouldn't hurt and it would look really good in the Killboy photos.

Jim

 

People with on this forum with plain MC's trade spoilers with people with MCS's all the time. Find someone that would want to trade with you (depending on your roof color it might be a little difficult, but if it's just the standard white/black it will be easy). They are easily swapped. Once you have the S spoiler you can get the GP wing.

 

Yeah, for only 2300 bucks... (that was my cost, list was almost 3K)


Mark

 

These will not be in that price range. That is part of the idea, make them affordable.

Jim

 

Good to know. I will follow up on that when the time comes. Thanks and "black" should not be hard.

Jim

 

Jim,

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the GP spoiler.




Mark

 

Mark, that is the very one. It is being made by a new company.

Jim

 

Are they making specifically for the R56?

I ask because obviously, the GP spoiler will not fit an R56.

If they are making one, I may have to replace mine.


Mark

 

Yes again Mark. They are making it for the R53 and the R56. Test version is out and was seen at the Dragon. More to come as they move forward. It is very nice. I have to figure out how to get it on my R56 non S which I am working on.

Jim

 

That's great... is there an issue getting it on the non S? I would have thought it just bolts on since like everyone has mentioned, people have swapped spoilers all the time.

Let us know.


Mark

 

Now I'm confused

If it's exactly like the GP spoiler then why does it attach to the S spoiler? And what company is doing this?

 

Well, that wasn't hard....

There is no such thing as a GP spoiler for an R56, it was only available for the R53.

Apparently Jim said that some company is now in the process of producing a GP spoiler for the R56.

What I was saying that there is no difference between an "S" and non "S" spoiler as far as attachment.


Mark

 

Let me try to un-confuse you. Let us say it is a re-production of the GP spoiler that attaches to the rear hatch of an R56 (S), using the attachment points for the the OEM spoiler, which would be removed.

Jim

 

So now that's cleared up... the question remains....

When and how much? I've always wanted one of those spoilers but I've kind of gotten use to mine and depending on price will determine if I get rid of it.


Mark

 

So if the thing fits the S, it will fit the MC..

 

Ultimately, yes.

If it's a "standalone" spoiler, meaning you remove whatever spoiler your car came with and bolt it directly to the hatch, then it fits any car easily.

If it's an "add-on" to a Cooper S spoiler, for instance, then a Cooper will have to get a Cooper S spoiler and the "add-on" spoiler.

 

Most likely, but we are waiting to see the final product. It is still in test/design mode right now. Working model only.

Jim

 

This has been a great thread and I see that others bellieve that under the right conditions the two cars can hold there own against each other. Sometimes I thought I was being looked down at with a justa, but not the case (well, with some I guess it will be) at all.

So, what type shocks, springs etc would give better handling without making the ride unbearable. I know this has been discussed before, but we are talking justa's here.

Jim

 

Obviously a S or a JCW will be faster (powerwise out of the box anyways) but I for one do not look down because someone chose to drive a justacooper or an S rather than what I prefer. I'm just thrilled that there are more mini owners regardless of model.


Jim,

Unless there is some reason why these wouldn't work, I'm going to stick with my recommendation of the NM engr'ing springs. My last '08 MCSa I had JCW springs and though they were okay, they only lowered the car 1/4"

The NM springs not only lower it perfectly, the handling is phenomonal. I was turned on to these springs last year and have suggested them to at least half a dozen people who have bought them. I've never heard a complaint.

Again, I can't speak for everyone else but though really lowered looks cool, for me, it's not practical. I've got 25K miles on my car in less than a year, there is no way I could stand a crappy ride or bottoming out everytime I hit a speedbump, etc, etc.

So unless someone can tell me why NM springs wouldn't work on a justa, that's my recommendation.


Mark

 

They would, those were my choice when I was looking at springs. But, winters are pretty heavy here and I need the option to raise the car back up when it snows, so I'm going the coilover route. I'm also going to add a 22mm sway bar at the same time, the car should really stick through the turns then.

 

Having graduated high school from hamburg (10 miles away from Buffalo) I'm familiar with your winters and it would be hard to think that 3/4" will make a difference.

Can you imagine the issues you're going to have with coilovers after a season of snow, salt and rust?

Good luck either way.


Mark

 

Are you talking about Grouppe 4 and their wings, splitters and rear diffusers? Cause that is what it looks like and they were the only ones doing any product showcase at the Dragon.

 

I graduated from Hamburg too (2007)!
What a coincidence.

You're probably right for the most part. But in the summer I'd like to have the car dropped at least 1.5" with my summer wheels on, then raise it back up to stock height in the winter with my winter wheels. I just couldn't deal with getting springs and the car always being that low.

 

2007?

I graduated, ah, well, errrr, let's put it this way.... you probably weren't even born when I graduated.


God I feel old.

I'm gonna go sell the mini and buy a buick.


Mark