R60 Flat load floor after the fact?
I got the flat load floor with the CM I ordered yesterday. No flat load floor has actually been delivered in CT, as far as my MA knew, so they don't know exactly what it looks like. A different MA I talked to was very confident that it was something they could retrofit on any CM once the parts all came in.
If it gets "deleted" from my car, my dealer is going to have to make it right or I'll threaten to walk. (In reality, I'd hopefully get something significant knocked off the price and then do AlfaDude's mod). I have dogs, so having the flat area is really important to me.
If it gets "deleted" from my car, my dealer is going to have to make it right or I'll threaten to walk. (In reality, I'd hopefully get something significant knocked off the price and then do AlfaDude's mod). I have dogs, so having the flat area is really important to me.
Has anyone actually seen the MINI version? I suspect that for $250 (given that the tissue box rail accessory is $107) all you get is a hunk of wood or something covered with rug.
It would be nice to think there was a way to prop it open or even that it hinged, but, I think that sounds more like $500.
The one I built for $15 props up with a dowell.
Bill
It would be nice to think there was a way to prop it open or even that it hinged, but, I think that sounds more like $500.
The one I built for $15 props up with a dowell.
Bill
Getting a ratcheting strap from Harbor Freight pulled the seats flatter, and a thick moving blanket provided sufficient coverage to fill the entire back with stuff going to my daughter's wedding. Thanks for the suggestion.

Sealy - Who has a bridge for sale.
As I understand it from my sources, the flat load floor without a secure, frontal crash-proof mounting does not meet US safety compliance standards. That is why the one from the factory has a slide-in mounting system to prevent it from launching forward into the cabin. One can debate the potential for injury from an unsecured load floor, but not with the US authorities.
So, a retrofit would most likely be the flat load floor and additional mounting hardware to retrofit to the sidewalls of the well area. I'm figuring $300 - $500 for parts with a possible stipulation that the parts cannot be sold without MINI dealer in$tallation (compliance/liability issues).
So, a retrofit would most likely be the flat load floor and additional mounting hardware to retrofit to the sidewalls of the well area. I'm figuring $300 - $500 for parts with a possible stipulation that the parts cannot be sold without MINI dealer in$tallation (compliance/liability issues).
For those of you who may have missed the pictures, this is what you get from the factory: CLICKY HERE
Now that Koopah mentions it, it is a rather secure install. My first impression was that it was not removable. It takes a pretty good tug to get it out of there. He may be on to something.
Now that Koopah mentions it, it is a rather secure install. My first impression was that it was not removable. It takes a pretty good tug to get it out of there. He may be on to something.
I'd love to see what they come up with, the sides of the well are reinforced with plastic if you order the floor, they aren't if you don't. MINI are being bloody cheaky making this an option, it's standard on the Clubman and Coupe, and on the 1 series, so why the hell isn't it standard on the Countryman?
My guess would be beacause it's not a Clubman, it's not a Coupe, and it's not a 1 Series. It's a Countryman and a whole different animal. 
Ok…Sealy I'm confused…which doesn't take much as it's in the mid 90's, humidity is pegged and everything coming off the paint line does not want to dry..it's been a long day. I clicked "clicky here" 1st picture is what I have..standard right! Then the 2nd picture has it raised, but what's covering the storage area ? 3rd shot shows it folded open ?
Was that an option or am I missing something ?
Was that an option or am I missing something ?
Ok I made it to the dealer today because they had my flat load floor. So I go home crack open the box and the posted pics is what I found. As you see on the underside it has rubber feet (lack of a better word), well as you know there is no place to stick the feet in. So I called the dealer told him about it, so they went out to a Countryman that had the floor and one that didn't. There are supports that have to be retrofitted to the sides of the well. And of course the parts are not available in the US, only Germany. So the wait continues, at least I have the first half of the problem out the way.
Sorry for the frustration, that's gotta be annoying.
I'm ordering the floor and now I feel a little better knowing that I'm getting more than carpeted particle board and a hinge for $250. Seems a bit steep, but it looks like there's more to it than just the floor.
I'm ordering the floor and now I feel a little better knowing that I'm getting more than carpeted particle board and a hinge for $250. Seems a bit steep, but it looks like there's more to it than just the floor.
Any chance it would work if you removed the "feet"? Looks like they are attached with screws???
Ok I made it to the dealer today because they had my flat load floor. So I go home crack open the box and the posted pics is what I found. As you see on the underside it has rubber feet (lack of a better word), well as you know there is no place to stick the feet in. So I called the dealer told him about it, so they went out to a Countryman that had the floor and one that didn't. There are supports that have to be retrofitted to the sides of the well. And of course the parts are not available in the US, only Germany. So the wait continues, at least I have the first half of the problem out the way.

Nope. The feets not the problem there's a split in the middle, which makes the whole thing collapse with out the support. The purpose I guess so you can just lift half of it to gain access to the well with out lifting the whole thing up.
Hope this helps.
Sealy - Who could shoot MINI over 2nd floors and bench seat foolishness
Very much so, Thanks Sealy. So it's the 2nd Floor (covers the well) that everyone is up in arms, looking to purchase or build? My well is full of all my flying needs, charts, headsets, flight bag etc…so that would be nice to have it all hidden and still be able to keep the top cover in the up position, even though we still have the other cover that opens when the hatch opens.
As you see on the underside it has rubber feet (lack of a better word), well as you know there is no place to stick the feet in. So I called the dealer told him about it, so they went out to a Countryman that had the floor and one that didn't. There are supports that have to be retrofitted to the sides of the well. And of course the parts are not available in the US, only Germany.
I should also point out that mine has the rear bench seat so it doesn't have the divide which comes with the 4 seat option, it also looks like the boot in a 4 seat and that in one like mine with the bench is different.
Last edited by KiwiRob; Jul 13, 2011 at 09:47 AM.
Covering the boot well when you have the standard cover up blocking the view between the seats is an easy build. Use the existing piece as a template and cover the 3/8-inch plywood with carpet or whatever. It just comes out through the hatch on a diagonal with one side raised. I'll post a picture of what I made a bit later.
Bill
Bill
Here are pictures of the boot cover I made. Used the factory piece as a template and cut off to fit. I used an old blanket to glue down for a cover.
I used 3/8 plywood and it is plenty strong.
I used 3/8 plywood and it is plenty strong.
It's not parts to be retrofitted, go and have a look for yourself, it's an entire new well, plus if you try to retrofit the latches don't have anywhere to latch when you open it up, so you need to replace the boot sides as well. Converting is a major job, and it will cost a bomb.
I should also point out that mine has the rear bench seat so it doesn't have the divide which comes with the 4 seat option, it also looks like the boot in a 4 seat and that in one like mine with the bench is different.
I should also point out that mine has the rear bench seat so it doesn't have the divide which comes with the 4 seat option, it also looks like the boot in a 4 seat and that in one like mine with the bench is different.
Disclaimer – What I’m saying here applies to my Zaftig. (2011 MINI Cooper S Countryman, FWD, 4-place seating, manufactured in Austria and delivered to Baltimore by ship.) If you are reading this in a foreign country, you are on your own. (This means you, Rob.
)The Accessory 2nd floor (well cover) is a squarish flat surface in two sections. It is hinged at the center, side to side (wheel to wheel, not seat to hatch). On the underside of the forward piece (closest to the seats) are mounted two pins, at the hinge and extending beyond the edge of the assembly. Mounted to the automobile there are two plastic blocks on the right and left sides and two plastic blocks mounted at the rear (hatch side). There is a vertical plastic trim piece that runs around the opening of the hatch, inside the well. The blocks are mounted to this piece with star bolts extending into the body of the vehicle. They are not molded in or otherwise permanently attached and appear to be “add ons”. The two side blocks have “L” shaped grooves extending from the upper edge, down to the center, and then towards the front. The male pins of the floor slide into the female groove and then slide to the front to friction lock. The rear blocks are similarly attached and have no fitments. They only support. The side blocks are the only attachment to the vehicle. There are no alterations to the seats, the sidewalls, the headliner, or anything else. There are only two functions of the floor piece – lift up the rear half (through the use of a convenient cut out serving as hand hold) or complete removal (reverse of install). The rear half does not fasten in the up position to anything, but can be folded towards the front half. The whole operation is independent of the standard load floor.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the detailed description, Sealy!
It's not parts to be retrofitted, go and have a look for yourself, it's an entire new well, plus if you try to retrofit the latches don't have anywhere to latch when you open it up, so you need to replace the boot sides as well. Converting is a major job, and it will cost a bomb.
I should also point out that mine has the rear bench seat so it doesn't have the divide which comes with the 4 seat option, it also looks like the boot in a 4 seat and that in one like mine with the bench is different.
I should also point out that mine has the rear bench seat so it doesn't have the divide which comes with the 4 seat option, it also looks like the boot in a 4 seat and that in one like mine with the bench is different.
Ugh!!!! I was looking at that also hoping thats not the case, this sucks royally especially since I ordered this option and was deleted. I'll hold on to the cover until whatever they got coming from Germany gets here. And the dealers have no idea what to expect. They thought the cover just clicked right in.

Sealy - Who's not going to say anything about comparing apples to kiwifruit.


