Drivetrain New MCS Owner - Cheap Mod Suggestions
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New MCS Owner - Cheap Mod Suggestions
Hi all! Just picked up a MCS R53 6spd the other day - first MINI & first post here on NAM. (longtime BMW guy)
I live in Minneapolis & needed to pickup a car I could DD year-round with good gas mileage for my lengthy commute. (just benched my E36 BMW 318ti M-tech M50 swap/track project as I found she won't move in the snow - even with winter shoes)
I've almost had the MINI for a week now - love it, peppy, rides on rails, & is a beast in the snow with DSC, FWD & a new set of Blizzaks (aside from bottoming out in the deep snow).
Anyway, I'm looking for some input as to some cheap mods for her. Not interested in messing with the supercharger (yet), first priority is to make her sound more aggressive, as IMO she sounds like a toy (compared to my BMW - no offense, guys).
I'm not on a set budget per say - just don't want to drop too much cash right off the bat as she's my "practical yet fun DD".
I'm thinking of:
1) One-Ball Mod (quote from local shop for $60-70 - not bad at all)
2) CAI: looks like most guys on here like the ALTA - but I'm skeptical about creating annoying supercharger whistle/whine (I'd ideally like a more throaty engine noise - & to minimize super squeal). Is ALTA the way to go?
3) ??? - open to suggestions on what's next
Cheers,
Dan
I live in Minneapolis & needed to pickup a car I could DD year-round with good gas mileage for my lengthy commute. (just benched my E36 BMW 318ti M-tech M50 swap/track project as I found she won't move in the snow - even with winter shoes)
I've almost had the MINI for a week now - love it, peppy, rides on rails, & is a beast in the snow with DSC, FWD & a new set of Blizzaks (aside from bottoming out in the deep snow).
Anyway, I'm looking for some input as to some cheap mods for her. Not interested in messing with the supercharger (yet), first priority is to make her sound more aggressive, as IMO she sounds like a toy (compared to my BMW - no offense, guys).
I'm not on a set budget per say - just don't want to drop too much cash right off the bat as she's my "practical yet fun DD".
I'm thinking of:
1) One-Ball Mod (quote from local shop for $60-70 - not bad at all)
2) CAI: looks like most guys on here like the ALTA - but I'm skeptical about creating annoying supercharger whistle/whine (I'd ideally like a more throaty engine noise - & to minimize super squeal). Is ALTA the way to go?
3) ??? - open to suggestions on what's next
Cheers,
Dan
Last edited by DanOx; 12-15-2012 at 01:51 PM.
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What's considered cheap?
$200 on eBay will get you an OBX header shipped to your door if you find the right deal. That'll help with the sound you're looking for. You could replace the cat with a straight pipe as well if you're into that sort of thing.
Another $200 will get you the WMW pulley package, which gives you the pulley, tensioner stop, shorter belt and colder range spark plugs. Easily the best mod for the money to a Mini.
Not sure on your mileage, but check your bypass valve. They tend to not shut completely, which causes you to lose boost. $125 will get you a Detroit Tuned BPV (bypass valve), or you can take the stock one apart and install a stiff spring.
You could make an intake yourself for much less than the units that are for sale online. All depends on your preference there.
After that, prices start to rise. Cat-back systems are a few hundred more than the header, and any other real power in the motor at that point is going to come from a ported and polished head, more aggressive cam, etc. A tune is a good idea as well, but really doesn't make much sense until you have some parts on there that warrant the adjustment.
Another thing to consider if you go pulley and exhaust is new injectors. That setup will essentially max out the stock injectors. If you don't plan to go much deeper with performance upgrades, grab some 380cc injectors, which came stock in the JCW. If a ported head or anything like that interests you, I'm then partial to the 550cc, which give you room to play with. The 380s can be dropped in and run without a tune, but the 550s will need a tune for the ecu to recognize their flow rate.
$200 on eBay will get you an OBX header shipped to your door if you find the right deal. That'll help with the sound you're looking for. You could replace the cat with a straight pipe as well if you're into that sort of thing.
Another $200 will get you the WMW pulley package, which gives you the pulley, tensioner stop, shorter belt and colder range spark plugs. Easily the best mod for the money to a Mini.
Not sure on your mileage, but check your bypass valve. They tend to not shut completely, which causes you to lose boost. $125 will get you a Detroit Tuned BPV (bypass valve), or you can take the stock one apart and install a stiff spring.
You could make an intake yourself for much less than the units that are for sale online. All depends on your preference there.
After that, prices start to rise. Cat-back systems are a few hundred more than the header, and any other real power in the motor at that point is going to come from a ported and polished head, more aggressive cam, etc. A tune is a good idea as well, but really doesn't make much sense until you have some parts on there that warrant the adjustment.
Another thing to consider if you go pulley and exhaust is new injectors. That setup will essentially max out the stock injectors. If you don't plan to go much deeper with performance upgrades, grab some 380cc injectors, which came stock in the JCW. If a ported head or anything like that interests you, I'm then partial to the 550cc, which give you room to play with. The 380s can be dropped in and run without a tune, but the 550s will need a tune for the ecu to recognize their flow rate.
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While the one-ball mod is probably the best bang for buck at just $60, its tempting, but I would go for a CAI in your case. I choose the CravenSpeed CAI, which has an air box like the JCW. It has a good throaty sound (and I can sometimes hear it sucking in air between shifts, but don't tell anyone I said that). The only thing bad about the CAI was the install. It wasn't a perfect fit, and you definitely should get a new intake tube.
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You shouldn't modify the car that you're relying on for a 'lengthy commute'. Spend the money keeping it in great working order.
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Too bad I don't have that kind of attitude I'm already planning my next set of mods while still waiting on a BSH mount and haven't installed my ATI super damper yet and my R53 is my daily (and only) vehicle.
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I have been there and done that (when I was younger) so the desire to drive worry free to far greater than that of more power. Then again, I have two vehicles so if one craps out I won't get stuck waiting for repairs.
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If I may make a slight change to that. I see OBX's going for 165 right now on there, However, I also see a Performance Racing Header set for 199. I would recommend the 200 dollar set since it's made out of 304 stainless steel, and not mild steel like the OBX's, as well as a flex mesh assembly built into it instead of the ball-type gasket assembly for the OBX.
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Personally I'd skip those mods to start with. You can just get a pulley kit and that will give you way more power than those mods for similar money.
If you want an intake go with the DDM intake, its our most popular intake and fits great.
If you want an intake go with the DDM intake, its our most popular intake and fits great.
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Pulley & ECU would be nice, but don't think I want to do that on my "practical year-round daily driver"... yet.
And thanks for the warm welcome!
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What's considered cheap?
$200 on eBay will get you an OBX header shipped to your door if you find the right deal. That'll help with the sound you're looking for. You could replace the cat with a straight pipe as well if you're into that sort of thing.
Another $200 will get you the WMW pulley package, which gives you the pulley, tensioner stop, shorter belt and colder range spark plugs. Easily the best mod for the money to a Mini.
Not sure on your mileage, but check your bypass valve. They tend to not shut completely, which causes you to lose boost. $125 will get you a Detroit Tuned BPV (bypass valve), or you can take the stock one apart and install a stiff spring...
$200 on eBay will get you an OBX header shipped to your door if you find the right deal. That'll help with the sound you're looking for. You could replace the cat with a straight pipe as well if you're into that sort of thing.
Another $200 will get you the WMW pulley package, which gives you the pulley, tensioner stop, shorter belt and colder range spark plugs. Easily the best mod for the money to a Mini.
Not sure on your mileage, but check your bypass valve. They tend to not shut completely, which causes you to lose boost. $125 will get you a Detroit Tuned BPV (bypass valve), or you can take the stock one apart and install a stiff spring...
(Perhaps I'll put the WMW package on the wish list...)
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Man, the stock guys are probably right, but I don't know if I can hold off after moding/tracking BMWs. Even if she is my family-friendly-practical-year-round-daily-driver...
It's just the stock sound that bugs me the most... She's a peppy rail runner, but sounds like a toy. (IMHO, no offense MINI enthusiasts - again, new owner here)
It's just the stock sound that bugs me the most... She's a peppy rail runner, but sounds like a toy. (IMHO, no offense MINI enthusiasts - again, new owner here)
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If you really want noise, get a Magnaflow exhaust. Heard they're noisy as hell. Janspeed headers unleash a pretty raw noise, too. Check the videos on YouTube. I'm getting a Milltek catback soon, but the other thing I thought sounded very nice, especially under acceleration was the Jetex catback.
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Hi all! Just picked up a MCS R53 6spd the other day - first MINI & first post here on NAM. (longtime BMW guy)
I live in Minneapolis & needed to pickup a car I could DD year-round with good gas mileage for my lengthy commute. (just benched my E36 BMW 318ti M-tech M50 swap/track project as I found she won't move in the snow - even with winter shoes)
I've almost had the MINI for a week now - love it, peppy, rides on rails, & is a beast in the snow with DSC, FWD & a new set of Blizzaks (aside from bottoming out in the deep snow).
Anyway, I'm looking for some input as to some cheap mods for her. Not interested in messing with the supercharger (yet), first priority is to make her sound more aggressive, as IMO she sounds like a toy (compared to my BMW - no offense, guys).
I'm not on a set budget per say - just don't want to drop too much cash right off the bat as she's my "practical yet fun DD".
I'm thinking of:
1) One-Ball Mod (quote from local shop for $60-70 - not bad at all)
2) CAI: looks like most guys on here like the ALTA - but I'm skeptical about creating annoying supercharger whistle/whine (I'd ideally like a more throaty engine noise - & to minimize super squeal). Is ALTA the way to go?
3) ??? - open to suggestions on what's next
Cheers,
Dan
I live in Minneapolis & needed to pickup a car I could DD year-round with good gas mileage for my lengthy commute. (just benched my E36 BMW 318ti M-tech M50 swap/track project as I found she won't move in the snow - even with winter shoes)
I've almost had the MINI for a week now - love it, peppy, rides on rails, & is a beast in the snow with DSC, FWD & a new set of Blizzaks (aside from bottoming out in the deep snow).
Anyway, I'm looking for some input as to some cheap mods for her. Not interested in messing with the supercharger (yet), first priority is to make her sound more aggressive, as IMO she sounds like a toy (compared to my BMW - no offense, guys).
I'm not on a set budget per say - just don't want to drop too much cash right off the bat as she's my "practical yet fun DD".
I'm thinking of:
1) One-Ball Mod (quote from local shop for $60-70 - not bad at all)
2) CAI: looks like most guys on here like the ALTA - but I'm skeptical about creating annoying supercharger whistle/whine (I'd ideally like a more throaty engine noise - & to minimize super squeal). Is ALTA the way to go?
3) ??? - open to suggestions on what's next
Cheers,
Dan
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