http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...plate=mobile02


IMO, The Paceman was a brilliant move building a 2 door Countryman coupe crossover for singles and empty nesters wanting to depart the 4 door family car status.

The good news is while the BMW Mini group is figuring out how to do more than take orders on mini hardtops and upsell young families into Countryman's, other OEM's like Mercedes, Porsche, Audi and Volvo do recognize the growing segment with the developing of new coupe crossovers.

Audi:
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Porsche:
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Volvo:
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If that's the case I wonder what it will do for resale? If they decide to stop making the car altogether or giving it updates, I might trade mine in sooner rather than 5 years from now.

Wouldn't the scarcity make it even more desirable? I'm sure they have to support the vehicle longer than 5 years. We own both, a Paceman and the Coupe. Feels like a little more exclusive "club" at the moment.

Unfortunately I went through this with my Nissan 370Z that I traded in. The car wasn't wildly successful and a lot of people weren't interested in buying it. It lost a good chunk of value even though only 30,000 were on the road nationwide and my particular combo was 1 of 152.

Hopefully that is not the case for the Paceman since it was a pricey little guy.

Scarcity has very little to do with the value of the average used vehicle for sale. Hell, when GM stopped making the Saturns they were dumping the remaining cars on the market at much lower selling prices which in turn brought down the value of any used Saturns for sale out there. And there weren't that many Saturns out there to start with.

I'm guessing that if BMW/MINI plans on dropping the Paceman in the next couple of years then you either have to consider trading yours in soon or holding onto it for a few years so that the value loss impact is minimal. Just my 2 cents adjusted for inflation & scarcity worth....

IMO, the resale value will likely be better on the Paceman than other Mini’s and most BMW’s whether or not BMW’s Mini group decides to produce the next version of the Countryman in a 2dr sportier Paceman crossover coupe or not.

I traded a tricked out 2011 R56S with only 28,000 miles a few months ago on my Paceman, taking almost a 50% resale value hit due to many contributing factors. First, the R56 was discontinued with the impending arrival of the F56. Second, Mini sold just under 40,000 cooper hardtops in the U.S for 2010 and 2011 so they are not hard to find or exclusive. Lastly, if someone is into Mini’s they can lease a new hardtop with full warranty, free maintenance and no worries cheaper than buying a 3 or 4 year used Mini, and if not into Mini’s, they can buy a lot of new cars with stellar ratings in the same size category in the mid-teens.

If someone is looking for a sporty driving coupe that will seat four adults with crossover utility, it’s either a Land Rover Evoque for 45K to 55K or a Paceman for 15K less. When you think about it, selling over 8,000 Paceman’s in Europe plus whatever was sold in the rest of the world just by putting the product on showrooms, with no marketing and or exposure outside of the Mini community is really strong, making it the third bestselling Mini model and most expensive of the three in only 12 months.

No, I’m not concerned about the resale of the Paceman, it has no cheap contenders, it’s exclusive, a sporty coupe, has crossover suv utility and lighter, faster and a tighter package than the Countryman.

I like the paceman S, but may choose to lease one, just in case!

Why don't you share with us what you do drive and some of the 30,000 reasons why you drive it?

Which you have stated over and over again.

Speaking badly in another's house is not just poor taste but disrespectful.

You don't own a MINI. And I already removed 9 of your off topic posts about VW's and Audi's.....did you take a wrong turn sir !

I would have to be extremely bored to go on a VW or Audi forum just to post negatives about the brands. I'm not going to defend my Paceman either. I couldn't be more pleased with it.

I've enjoyed driving my wife's Countryman so much that I've started to daydream about swapping my Clubman for a Paceman. with a a stiffer rear sway bar and maybe a set of Koni FSD's it would be almost perfect!

(I'm one of the rare birds who prefers the rear bench of the CM to the rear buckets. But that's fairly minor in the scheme of things.)

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If i didn't have the need for the 2 extra doors that the CM offers i would have happily bought a Paceman.

I think the Paceman looks a little sportier than the Countryman, and since I don't need the doors, it's definitely the ride for me. Couldn't be happier.

http://f48.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=960632

BMW's skinned version of the Pacemen, called the BMW X2.

word of the Paceman's demise were greatly exaggerated...in fact the Paceman will live on...methinks this was an elaborate plot to see what sort of reaction they would get...if MINI would actually market the car they would get more sales

Try selling a CM, it's hard man, very hard. People don't want them. People want to spec their own MINI, they don't want to buy what someone else has already speced. My local MINI dealer has 4-5 CM on the forecourt, the dealer I bought mine off said it's easier to sell a new one than a second hand one, which is the reason why I got such a poor trade in price on a new 1 series, they didn't want another CM sitting on the forecourt. So BMW's loss was Audi's gain. My worst car buying mistake ever was that CM.

Did you buy an Audi?

I did, an A1 Sportback. I pick it up on Friday.

In many cases, since January 1st 2011 their 3 year MINI leases are all coming back now...which explains the influx of used models with dealer inventory last 3 months....

Rob,

Congratulations on your new ride, after all variety is the spice of life. One of my friends purchased an Audi Allroad and really likes it.