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shooler 11-03-2007 05:39 AM

1 Attachment(s)
TCE/Wilwood 14" kit with 18X7 OZ Ultralegerra (ET 42 requires no spacer)
Attachment 166584

minimusprime 11-03-2007 07:01 AM

thanks for the updates guys. I'm going out for bfast with the woman then I'll do some updating.

I think im going to add links to templates (when available) under each kit.

MiniMacPR 11-03-2007 07:36 AM

Nice thread:cool:

Not sure if its too early for a "sticky" status but you have my vote:thumbsup:

drmike@txwerks.com 11-03-2007 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by minimusprime (Post 1841621)

I think im going to add links to templates (when available) under each kit.

Cool. Here's a link to the TSW BBK template:

http://www.txwerks.com/images/Instal...ILHOUETTE1.pdf

PGT 11-03-2007 04:42 PM

AP Racing template

garylimey 11-04-2007 06:12 PM

I just installed on my GP the Stoptech BBK with 8mm spacers in order to stop the tires touching the thicker Strut of the M7 coilovers. The car is lowered with negative 2 camber front and rear, its real tight, lucky thing there's no back seats.
SSR type C RS 17x7.5 wheels with BF Goodrich g-force T/A KDW 215/45ZR17 tires. The wheel offset is 42

minimusprime 11-05-2007 05:37 AM

Ok Folks updated. Sorry for the lack of updates over the weekend but we're all caught up.

Thanks for all the help.

toddtce 11-05-2007 06:09 AM

This is a nicely compiled list but it may be a bit misleading in a way.

Without looking at the template needs for each kit and comparing them we're listing them by manufacture and not by clearance. That would lead one to believe there are less choices for one kit over another, or another.

What clears a Stoptech kit for example will clear either of the TCE13" kits. What clears a Wilwood factory 12.2" kit (TCE Plus 2) will most likely clear the Detroit Tuned. As well as all those wheels that cleared the Stoptechs.

Actually I created a huge spread sheet on all of this- and much more technical data, years ago. Not sure if I can find it or not but I'd suggest the list be populated by "caliper overhang". That way you'd see what space is needed for each kit rather than how someone made them work with spacers.

Also note that some templates include air gaps, others do not for cut out or fit purposes.

BTW: Wilwood factory templates
11.75- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds492.pdf
12.2- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds490.pdf

TCE- http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html

mbcoops 11-05-2007 06:34 AM

Wilwood 11.75 fits over rota slipstreams 15x7 +40 with a 5mm spacer:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=118715

mb

minimusprime 11-05-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by toddtce (Post 1844203)
This is a nicely compiled list but it may be a bit misleading in a way.

Without looking at the template needs for each kit and comparing them we're listing them by manufacture and not by clearance. That would lead one to believe there are less choices for one kit over another, or another.

What clears a Stoptech kit for example will clear either of the TCE13" kits. What clears a Wilwood factory 12.2" kit (TCE Plus 2) will most likely clear the Detroit Tuned. As well as all those wheels that cleared the Stoptechs.

Actually I created a huge spread sheet on all of this- and much more technical data, years ago. Not sure if I can find it or not but I'd suggest the list be populated by "caliper overhang". That way you'd see what space is needed for each kit rather than how someone made them work with spacers.

Also note that some templates include air gaps, others do not for cut out or fit purposes.

BTW: Wilwood factory templates
11.75- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds492.pdf
12.2- http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/ds490.pdf

TCE- http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/wheel_fit.html

This is a huge concern of mine. A list like this is not only a huge undertaking but also a liability in several fashions. People may mistake the wheels listed as the only ones that will fit a certain kit... also just as you said the lack of responses may make people think that a certain kit has less fitment.

I'm not quite sure what to do about this... but I will tell you that as a consumer with a big brake kit... shopping for wheels is very very hard.

I guess I'll brain storm and come up with something. Maybe we could slide a post in under the main one that discusses profiles from caliper to caliper?

toddtce 11-05-2007 02:35 PM

A thought here might be to list the "Big Brake Friendly" wheels on the market and list what spacer is required then for each BBK option. Kinda coming at it from the other side maybe?

I'm good with the idea and thought here, I just don't want folks to get the impression that one kit or another has limited wheel choices over the other due to lack of posts by customers or what spacer is needed. For example a ST kit with 8mm spacers may use the same wheel and no spacer with a DT kit or a 3mm spacer is needed on a Wilwood factory kit.

Personally I think (admitedly partially a business decision here) that you should list the caliper body over hang of each kit based on the templates or data supplied. Then list the normal spacing of common wheels used perhaps so someone can calculate the required spacer (or close) that they'll need for the wheel options.

So far you have brake kit sizing info for about ten kits I think so line them up on sizing order. Don't forget to add the Porsche kit, the Torax and any other lesser known kits also for equal air time.

garylimey 11-05-2007 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by garylimey (Post 1843642)
I just installed on my GP the Stoptech BBK with 8mm spacers in order to stop the tires touching the thicker Strut of the M7 coilovers. The car is lowered with negative 2 camber front and rear, its real tight, lucky thing there's no back seats.
SSR type C RS 17x7.5 wheels with BF Goodrich g-force T/A KDW 215/45ZR17 tires. The wheel offset is 42



http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...eration037.jpg

tomonline 11-06-2007 12:20 AM

hi - so i came with my first question - did actually someone fit the 16" X-lites on the wilwood 12.2 street-kit (probably with spacers?)

tom

cct1 11-06-2007 11:30 AM

Kosei K1 TS 1 15x7 clear JCW brakes (R53).

garylimey 11-06-2007 03:05 PM

I tried 5mm spacers today instead of 8mm, it's close but no rubbing on the struts:thumbsup:

minimusprime 11-08-2007 07:50 AM

bump.

still looking for input from bbk owners.

agranger 11-19-2007 11:18 AM

Wilwood 11.5 kit:

16x6.5 Rota Slipstreams fit with a 12mm spacer - The 5mm spacers weren't enough (agranger)

COR BLMY 11-25-2007 03:10 PM

Urban myth help or other options

I have the wilwood plus 3 and understand that an OZ ultralegga (sp ?) 16" will fit.??? IS THIS TRUE ?

I am after info on any 16" that may fit.

I do auto-x and a 215/40 16 is only 22.4" tall (8.5 tread width)
or a 234/40 17 is 24.2 tall (but 9.5 wide)

Cant really figure out if a tire that much shorter BUT 1' narrower is better ?:impatient

Mini7 11-25-2007 08:18 PM

S-Lites & TCE Plus1 Wilwood BBK
 
Does anyone know if stock S-lites will clear the 11.75"x.81" TCE Wilwood kit?

If not what spacer would I need?

Thanks

Mr. Q 11-28-2007 05:44 PM

+1
 

Originally Posted by minimusprime (Post 1850817)
bump.

still looking for input from bbk owners.

+1

quikmni 11-28-2007 06:38 PM

Wilwood/TCE 13" Rotor with FSL Caliper under BBS RGR 17x7, 38 offset with no wheel spacer.

toddtce 11-28-2007 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mini7 (Post 1883592)
Does anyone know if stock S-lites will clear the 11.75"x.81" TCE Wilwood kit?

If not what spacer would I need?

Thanks

No kits clear this wheel that I'm aware of. Poor wheel design.

PortMCS 11-28-2007 07:43 PM

^ That sucks! I could see this posin a problem in the winter when i wanna switch over to the S-lites for the winter driving months :sad:

agranger 11-29-2007 06:13 PM

I just fit an S-lite tonight for another NAM-er, so here is my new post from above along with an additonal S-lite fitting:

Wilwood 11.5" rotor kit:

- 16x6.5 Rota Slipstreams fit with a 12mm spacer - The 5mm spacers weren't enough (agranger)
- S-Lites: Barely fit with a 5mm spacer, but 7-8mm STRONGLY recommended (agranger)

ChrisMCS04 12-03-2007 04:58 PM

Great to see this being compiled! This will help in the future tremendously.


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