I have a 22mm Mini Madness rear sway bar. And I have adjusted it to the firmest setting and do not notice any difference from the medium setting.
Should I do any adjustments to the end links to compincate ?

 

try taking a FAST turn and let me know if you end up in a ditch or on a
light pole.

 

I was going to suggest taking it to a track where you can really push the car in a corner, but tossing it into a ditch or a light pole will work just as well. . .

 

I did take it to a track and that's why I making the statement. No difference

 

Then you didnt push it hard enuff.

As the roundy round boys say, the difference is whether you smack the wall with the hood or the trunk. Your not going to feel anything until your at 11/10s (or just under)

 

4 wheel drifts in all turns and no lap time differences?

 

we need to change his handle to stools.

 

Have you ever pushed the car to the point that it starts to understeer ?

If you get to that same place again, speed, tight corner you should notice that you *might* be able to take that corner a *little* faster than before....

BUT like it's been said - trying to find out what the NEW limit is on the Street could leave you with a Nasty & Expen$$ive surprise...

 

I guess that 35 years of driving and racing cars doesn't make me a professional but I know where the limits of my car are because I've been there and past them.
According to timed laps and pushing to the limits there have been no difference in times.
So according to this and what you all seem to be saying is that you don't need to adjust the end links and just be happy with what I have.

 

 

Ah, this confirms why I never did the mod.

 

Maybe try it in the rain and lift off the throttle.

 

I dont understand what your saying. If the tail end aint coming around on its on, it aint oversteering? If your not plowing straight ahead, your not understeering ... so your neutral at the limit? How do you know its the limit if you haven't broken traction?

Like someone else suggestion, do it wet (or snow). Of perhaps get the HComp Racing bar. Maybe the 22mm Alta just isn't enuff? Possible?

 

find a very safe part of the track/closed parking lot/some place safe from ... everything and accelerate to say 50 and grab the wheel as hard as you can and....yank.....does the front push or does the rear come around..... try the same thing with the bar at a different setting and see if there is a change as to how much of either it does..... crude - to put it mildly, but you should see a difference....

 

oh, it's enough to make you go sideways. (no joke).

tools- DSC's off right?

 

Yea, try this. If it doesn't work, then something's wrong. My H-Sport comp on the softest setting will cause the rear end to start coming around in the rain on lift-off.

 

That will make any car rotate.

 

When I put my 22m Alta on the stiffest setting I was expecting some crazy oversteer from all the posts on here but found the limit was a little better but not uncontrollable. I'm planning to adjust the rear camber to 1" camber and 0" toe and see how it is then.

 

I always start by writing, "keep in mind" because everyone may have a different experience based upon other mods.

consider this; the endlink's position is fixed at the bottom. You've reloacted the top portion of the endlink to the setting closest to the torque tube portion of the swaybar. This in theory places the endlink at an extreme angle when viewed from the side. Endlinks work best when absolutely perpendicular to a horizontal bar end at ride height (the hole in the end of the bar is on the same axis as the center of the bar as it passes thru the bushing...not possible with the mini's rear bar). At an angle, the endlink's effectiveness is diluted. At an extreme, a horizontal endlink will do nothing.

At some level I'm not surprised by your impression.

Are your endlinks adjustable?

 

meb, you seem very sensitive to that term "adjustable"

 

Everytime I either read adjustable or hear it, my hair catches on fire...folks in my office randomly shout out 'adjustable?' so they can watch

 

Att: Meb, yes they are Alta Adjustable end links, I appreciate YOUR knowledge.
This is exactly what info I was looking.

 

That's why in my quick review of the Webb bar I suggested to Randy he contemplate a slider or some sort of effective adapter that will allow the endlinks to be adjusted at the bottom as well. I don't know if space prevents this, but in theory it is certainly worth a look.

 

what...you don't want to yank the steering wheel at 50?

 

< partial post deleted > sorry! :impatient