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Suspension Webb Control Arms vs. H-Sport vs. Ireland Engineering

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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Webb Control Arms vs. H-Sport vs. Ireland Engineering

Has anyone tried the Webb control arms yet? Are they worth the extra money? From the website, they appear to be high quality but nothing worth noting as different from anyone elses control arms.

I have limited my choices to those with polyurethane bushings, since my car will mostly be a daily driver. The top choices appear to be Webb, H-Sport, and Ireland Engineering. I like the Webb because their in house products are often better than others, but I haven't confirmed if this is the case for their control arms. I like H-Sport because of the zerk fittings and the easy to turn grips. I like Ireland Engineering because it does the job and does it very affordably.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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I'm interested to learn whether the price premium on the WMS control arms offers a significant improve over others as well - right now, the H-Sports look to be a good compromise between features and price.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Be gratefu you are on the west coast and not in one of the winter salt states like me. My H-sport "suppposedly" adjustable control arms froze shut after one winter and I had to damage the nuts to loosen them up. They will never be the same. I should have coated them with grease.

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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What about anti-seize? I use it for Al and Ti on my bicycle and it seems to work (bicycles seem to suffer a lot of environmental exposure damage compared to cars, certainly for their size and weight.)
btw, my IE control arms appear to be well made and installed very easily and allowed simple adjustment.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Don’t know about the Ireland engineering components but I have both the WMS extreme sway bar and a set of the rear camber links that Randy made. I recommend both. I am not getting any noise from them and the handling is awesome. Randy said both are made with high quality Aurora bushings for the heim joints and should last a very long time. I have heard the H-Sport camber links are heavy and not as strong.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Not sure what kind of Rod ends others use but we have used a couple over the years, with great success. The latest rod ends are complete over kill (as were the old ones) in their rating of 30,000lbs. These also have something different than the normal teflon liner to keep them nice and tight. Over the years some of the customers, in salted road citys, see a slight loosening of the rod ends as the teflon is "pounded" out and the salt wearing it away. Our newer versions will not have this problem. This problem is far and few between over the last few years, but is something to consider for those keeping their cars forever! Our parts don't have grease fittings as they are not needed. And in some cases make things worse as it attracts dirt to the wearing parts.

We get a lot of people asking us about how loud they are. This is a benifit others use on their urethane type arms. In reality not a single person has ever complained about noise or NHV. Because the arms are very parellel to the ground, bump and things in the road get transfered to the shocks, not the chassis. Because of this the solid type arms perform much better than the urethane, with no downsides.

Other than that we use an aluminum arm to save weight, where as some use steel.

Hope that helps with some of your descision making!
 
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