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Suspension Upgrading bilstien b16 coilover springs

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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 11:36 PM
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Upgrading bilstien b16 coilover springs

I'm now the lucky owner of a lightly used set of bilstien PSS10 B16

Plans are to purchase a R59 roadster mcs/Jcw and modify to stage 3+manic,
or more and daily drive it, with perhaps a track day or 2 yearly to blow out the cobwebs
I'm planning on a lsd, also Tyres will be 215/45/17 Yokohama ado8 r

Will I need to upgrade to straight springs if I wish to add in some extra front camber?
Say 1.75 or 2 nothing too extreme, Or is that a sledgehammer to crack a nut
should I be happy with these out of the box, and just run 1 degree by pulling the pins

Worst case scenario would be to purchase swifts or hypercoils and vorshlag topmounts, as that would cost more than the bilstiens have so far
money that could better go towards rear arb, drop links, rear camber arms, upgraded brakes etc

Equally I would rather do it right once than pay twice,
as this will be another 10year + car

As a reference point I drove a r53 with Bc and 8/6kg swifts for about 100,000 miles, that would be about my limit of what's acceptable on my local roads as I
Needed big gp1 Recaro seats to help soak up the bumps

I'm actually expecting a huge upgrade on handling and refinement,
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blue al
I'm now the lucky owner of a lightly used set of bilstien PSS10 B16

Plans are to purchase a R59 roadster mcs/Jcw and modify to stage 3+manic,
or more and daily drive it, with perhaps a track day or 2 yearly to blow out the cobwebs
I'm planning on a lsd, also Tyres will be 215/45/17 Yokohama ado8 r

Will I need to upgrade to straight springs if I wish to add in some extra front camber?
Say 1.75 or 2 nothing too extreme, Or is that a sledgehammer to crack a nut
should I be happy with these out of the box, and just run 1 degree by pulling the pins

Worst case scenario would be to purchase swifts or hypercoils and vorshlag topmounts, as that would cost more than the bilstiens have so far
money that could better go towards rear arb, drop links, rear camber arms, upgraded brakes etc

Equally I would rather do it right once than pay twice,
as this will be another 10year + car

As a reference point I drove a r53 with Bc and 8/6kg swifts for about 100,000 miles, that would be about my limit of what's acceptable on my local roads as I
Needed big gp1 Recaro seats to help soak up the bumps

I'm actually expecting a huge upgrade on handling and refinement,
You should be able to get -1.5 to -1.75 deg. Anything more and you need new springs. But you will need camber plates anyway in order to get to -1.5deg. Try it with the pins pulled and see how you like it.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 02:11 PM
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Looks like I can get a good deal on some used 8kg hypercoils for all four corners

Ideally I'd spec 7/6 but i am hoping that the extra weight will allow me some scope with stiffer springs

Will this be ok long term or am I compromising too much
Seems pointless saving on springs to have to revalve at a later date
 
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