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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Best alignment settings for Stability.

Hi,
I have a R56 with the Sports Susp.

I am getting my tires rotated soon and will get it alingned as well.

What is the best seting i can get from the OEM equipment for the best stability for the twisties?

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo
Hi,
I have a R56 with the Sports Susp.

I am getting my tires rotated soon and will get it alingned as well.

What is the best seting i can get from the OEM equipment for the best stability for the twisties?

Thanks
More negative camber will give you more grip in turns but I don't think you can get much more than OE spec without modifying the suspension to be more adjustable.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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I didn't realise negative camber was possible on the OEM suspension.....
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by danielo
I didn't realise negative camber was possible on the OEM suspension.....
Just put on some lowering springs and you will negative camber
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Here are the OE ranges considered within spec:

Front
Camber: -0.9 to -0.1
Toe: .11 to .19
SAI: 11 to 12
Included Angle: 10.1 to 11.9

Rear
Camber: -2.1 to -1.4
Toe: .13 to .27

So the car already has some negative camber designed into the OE spec, but if you want maximum traction for corner grip, more may be better, but you'll need camber plates/adjustable links to have any significant flexibility.

I understand the concepts and I'm a pretty good driver but I don't think I'm at the point where my skill could benefit from different alignment settings. I'd say unless you are an expert driver with a lot of performance driving experience, driver training will do far more for your twisty handling skills than camber.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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I guess some negative camber will be better than non.... also, it would save and add to the longevity of my front tires where the outer shoulders seem to wear more due to canyon carving.

MiniManiac74, yes, springs will increase the negative camber due to the drop but if i am to lower the MINI, coils would be the route i'd go, but the budget doesn't allow for that i'm afraid.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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has anyone tried removing the alignment pin on top of the struts? on bmws it was good for another -.5 degree of camber.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Yes, that was the first thing I did when I got the car. It may add -.3 to -.4. Helps the front tires grip more in turns, it takes out some understeer.

Remove pin, raise front of car, loosen the 3 top strut nuts, push in at top of strut or tires until it moves all the way to the end of the slots, tighten to 25 ft/lbs.


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has anyone tried removing the alignment pin on top of the struts? on bmws it was good for another -.5 degree of camber.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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You better reset the toe as well. Moving camber will change toe.
 
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