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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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I found a couple of pics on the installation and routing. Thought I'd share....

This won't work for me exactly....but it will for those without a factory alarm.

From http://www.mappage.net/cmine/




 
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Randy mounts the M7 can over the header. It fits nicely there.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Installed the catch can today. Fit with no problem above the headers, screwed two bolts into the black plastic divider on the passenger side.

I will upload pics later but just for reference I installed it like the below pic, as opposed to the way shown in the pic from my previous post.

As I understood it, all you have to do is install the OCC in between the PCV outlet and the hard grey tubing as shown below.

I will say this - I drove about 10 miles and then pulled into my destination and popped open the trunk with the engine running and it the PCV hose was pretty much collapsed, indicating it was under vacuum.

Is this normal?

I've read about Alta catch cans shrinking (which is why I went with a metal can) but I didn't realize that the hose would actually shrink significantly. And let me tell you, it got real hot in there real fast! I think I might have to go to Autozone and by some 3/8" hose since I'm not crazy about the hose collapsing...


 
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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You will need to get better hose then what was supplied with your kit! This will prevent from collapsing when under vacuum. I own the alta catch can and what I did to precent if from collapsing was i cut a piece of pvc pipe and stuck it in between the hose and the ends.

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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by garretwp
You will need to get better hose then what was supplied with your kit! This will prevent from collapsing when under vacuum. I own the alta catch can and what I did to precent if from collapsing was i cut a piece of pvc pipe and stuck it in between the hose and the ends.

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Boy I would have thought that hose was strong enough but I was wrong.

Will head to Home Depot today to find some good quality PCV hose.

Here are some pics of the install!








 
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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You might want to look into some fuel line as well. This will be much stronger then what you might find at a hardware store.

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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by garretwp
You might want to look into some fuel line as well. This will be much stronger then what you might find at a hardware store.

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Thanks, will do.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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So to recap, the kit comes with everything you need to install except for two things:

a) quality hose
b) two bolts (whatever size fits the bracket) and two nuts to mount the can.

Will post how much the hose costs me but I doubt it will be more than $15.

So all in all, I'm stupendously happy with this product and recommend it to anyone who has seen oodles of oil in their intercooler.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Ok I bought 6 feet of quality fuel line from PepBoys @ $1.69 a foot.

It doesn't strike me as that much sturdier than the hose that came with the kit but hey for $10, worth a try.

Now, the problem I have is this:

If I hit the brakes hard and come to a full stop and then proceed to accelerate, I can hear two things go "Pop, pop".

And if I listen very carefully it almost sounds like the tube is contracting under some massive vacuum....and the minute I step on the gas the pressure is released and the tube is just "popping" back to its normal state (i.e. uncontracted)

Can anyone tell me wtf is going on? I think this is the reason why the stock system has that really hard grey tube - so that it does not flex at all when on vacuum.

Any help is appreciated. I just want to make sure I haven't done anything wrong.....
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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There's an other way to run the lines for your OCC...It's kind of difficult to explain. But if you take a look at this It may help.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...0&d=1142102649

-Plug the grey line going to your super charger
-Install a "T" fitting to the passenger vent tube
-run one end to your OCC
-Cut the diverside vent tube
-Connect the driver side vent tube to the "T" fitting on the passenger side vent tube
-run a line from the other spot on your OCC to the intake down tube (the other end that you cut from the driver side vent tube)

Just curious, what's the little clear line that you have running from your cowl?

Hope that helps!! -- Johan
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Thanks Johan. From what I read I thought that tapping into the vent side wasn't really necessary...And that people who hooked it up that way were trapping as much oil as when they hooked it up direct and only the PCV side.

Has anyone who has hooked it up the "simple" way heard the same "pop pop" noise as I have described?

(Plus I didn't buy enough hose to reach all the way to the other side so this way will have to do for now).
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Lordofflies, can u do us a favour and take closer pics of the install? ive got no idea on the hose routing for the occ install.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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The black hose right below the arrow right below #1 is where you run the catch to.

It's really short - maybe about 4" long and attaches to the hard grey tube that my socket wrench is touching. See?

So you just run the line from the PCV outlet to the can, and then from the can to the hard grey tube.


 
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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thats lotf - its helped (a little, but enough )
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Solved!

Well, turns out the popping noise was due to me not checking every single screw that holds both the top and bottom of the can in place.

In fact, one of them fell out and is now MIA!

Anyways, after opening it up after only a week of use, I had oil in there already. Will post pics later as I left my damn camera at my friend's house.

So now I feel justified in my purchase!

Tightened everything down and actually relocated it about 6" to the left ( had to drill off that weird looking plastic post that does nothing for clearance) and now emptying the can will be much easier than before.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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What is the difference with the two ways people install the OCC? On method the tube runs from the gray tube to the OCC then to the PCV? The other method shows a T at the PCV. Is there a benefit of one way over the other?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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There are about a zillion threads on the subject but basically the method I used is strictly focused on the PCV side. Others who have tee'd into both and/or installed a second can on the other side have reported little or no oil being grabbed.

I figured I'd make it as simple as possible and just run the can into the PCV line.

Definition: The Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve is an emissions control device that routes unburned crankcase blowby gases back into the intake manifold where they can be reburned. The PCV system is one of the oldest emission control Sponsored devices, and also one of the most beneficial. Besides totally eliminating crankcase emissions as a source of air pollution, the constant recirculation of air through the crankcase helps remove moisture which otherwise would cause sludge to form. Thus the PCV valve extends the life of the oil and engine. The PCV valve requires little maintenance. The valve and filter should be replaced somewhere around 30,000 to 50,000 miles (see the vehicle owners manual for service intervals).
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Thanks, LOTF. I received the same OCC and may get a chance to put it on this week.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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with the two routing methods - which one is 'better' i dont why there are two routing methods, both which are aimed to achieve the same outcome.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Again, I haven't routed it the other way but hey, after a week, I'm seeing oil. So take that for what it's worth.

I'm sure there are other people who have routed it both way that can shed some light as to which way is more efficient.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Well evidently I didn't snap any pics of the install showing the new location or hose but I did snap a pic of the oil in the can after only one week!







And here's a pic of my ride after a nice carwash....


 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Finally got some pics with the new hose and new mounting location (slightly to the left about 6" or so)





 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Other than the lack of an M7 stamped on the top, sure looks like the same can to me. I honestly don't know why anyone would pay $100 or more for one of these anyway. This looks like a good deal for the same can. Just need to get better hose and it's good to go.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ignote
Other than the lack of an M7 stamped on the top, sure looks like the same can to me. I honestly don't know why anyone would pay $100 or more for one of these anyway. This looks like a good deal for the same can. Just need to get better hose and it's good to go.
I do believe the m7 can is a little shorter but I'm not 100% sure.

But yeah, this is a great can, super high quality (other than the hose) and was easy to install.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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three things:

1) looks great, i'll be ordering on soon for both of our cars.

2) get some black zip ties!

3) Any issue with oil changes with the can located there? Can you still get to the canister easily?

thank you!

-jac
 
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