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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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Timing Confirmation needed

2013 Mini Base, 99K miles
After having a no start condition I started checking for timing chain failure.
I bought the tool set to lock the cams etc and wanted to check current position of the cams and crank first. (thanks MiniToBe)
I locked the flywheel using the special tool and ensured that both cam marking are on the top. (see photo)
All the pistons are at the same level (check with wooden dowels)
The lobes on the intake and exhaust cams do not match what is in the book. Is the Bentley book off or is my timing off? Is the photo in the book from a N18 or N12?
I don’t see the secondary shaftin the photo from the book. It must be a different engine, but want to ask someone with more experience.



I can't see any slack in the chain or tensioner so I can't understand how it could be off this much. And if it was off, the lettering on the top wouldn’t show. I got around 100-105 in each cylinder when I did a compression check earlier.
Thanks in advance for the help.









 

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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 02:50 PM
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Hey Brother....lol...It seems I'm following you...The lopes position doesnt matter. what matters is the locking tool fitting nicely at the end. Bently is showing the N14 engine.

can you take a picture at where the locking tool would sit? mare the resolution is bit bigger, the photos are small
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 02:58 PM
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Here a photo or two.
The locking tool kit I bought fits the over the camshafts but it won't bolt onto the head. I'll have to buy a better one if I need the change the timing chain.


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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 03:03 PM
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it looks good to me...you need the N18 locking tool. you probably have the N12/N14 combo tool.

for the no start also, once you put everything together, make sure the coil packs ground wire is attached.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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Thanks again,

The tool kit stated N12, N14, N16 - but clearly that is not the case. I've already printed to label to return it.


Bill
 
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