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One-sided belt damage from bad harmonic balancer?

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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 05:03 PM
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One-sided belt damage from bad harmonic balancer?

While driving at low speed, the battery light on my 05 MCS suddenly turned on and the car went into "limp mode." I pulled over and popped the hood, to find a burning rubber smell and a little piece of rubber dangling beneath the drive belt. I was able to drive home slowly and remove the belt, which was horribly damaged on only one side:



I replaced the belt and started the car. It seemed to run ok but the Service Engine Soon light remained illuminated, and I pulled code P1688.

Upon inspection of the harmonic balancer, I found this:
The pulley seems to have some play on it; I don't know if this is normal. Any thoughts on how this relates to the belt and P1688 code?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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It’s “normal” in a bad way as the crank pulley’s tend to fail. The rubber breaks down and begins to slip causing the burning smell. The play in the pulley is probably what caused the belt wear. When the pulleys fail catastrophically, the two halves break apart and sometimes grind into the timing cover on the block, or lead to overheating the motor because the water pump is no longer turning.

Replacing it with an ATI pulley or PRW fluidgel pulley and avoiding another stock one is the usual recommendation.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 08:29 PM
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Yup normal crank pulley failure.
Get an ATI damper and you won't have to worry about it again.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
 
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Old Jul 12, 2018 | 07:47 PM
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So i pulled of the harmonic balancer, and indeed the rubber was shot.:







however, of more concern, it appears the inner side of the balancer was rubbing on the engine block:







Has anyone seen this before? Not sure if this is just the result of a bad balancer or if it indicates a deeper problem with the drive-shaft.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mdurando
...however, of more concern, it appears the inner side of the balancer was rubbing on the engine block: Has anyone seen this before? Not sure if this is just the result of a bad balancer or if it indicates a deeper problem with the drive-shaft.
That damage is consistent with the failure of the harmonic balancer if left to degrade for too long. The rubber separates, the pulley portion wobbles and makes contact with the timing cover. Unless it has worn a hole through the cover, I wouldn't worry about it.

FYI: Before you bolt on a new crank pulley, make sure to replace the crankshaft seal, MINI p/n 11111485171, or Mopar/Chrysler p/n 4667198

 

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Old Oct 20, 2019 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AoxoMoxoA
That damage is consistent with the failure of the harmonic balancer if left to degrade for too long. The rubber separates, the pulley portion wobbles and makes contact with the timing cover. Unless it has worn a hole through the cover, I wouldn't worry about it.

FYI: Before you bolt on a new crank pulley, make sure to replace the crankshaft seal, MINI p/n 11111485171, or Mopar/Chrysler p/n 4667198

4667198...has anyone verified that this part number works?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2019 | 11:22 PM
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Damaged "damper"...not...balancer..!

There is NO external balancer on these engines. The correct details mean something.

Mike
 
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 05:12 AM
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4667198...has anyone verified that this part number works?
No responses. I just ordered one and will hopefully be in a position to respond and let you know.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2019 | 07:29 AM
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Here is the correct crank seal for an R53
https://www.waymotorworks.com/front-crank-seal.html
 
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