Solo I need more camber!!!
#1
I need more camber!!!
Ok, so I have Helix camber plates with stock shocks and strings. I can't get them adjusted past 1.75 degrees of negative camber before I start having rubbing issues on the driver's side.
I know that the stock spring diameter is to blame and a lot more camber can be had by going to a narrow diameter spring. I really don't feel like spending the money and the effort on a full coilover setup. Do I have any other options? What is the most cost effective method to getting the clearance to get the camber into the 2.3 to 2.6 range?
Sorry if this is repeat.
I know that the stock spring diameter is to blame and a lot more camber can be had by going to a narrow diameter spring. I really don't feel like spending the money and the effort on a full coilover setup. Do I have any other options? What is the most cost effective method to getting the clearance to get the camber into the 2.3 to 2.6 range?
Sorry if this is repeat.
#3
Interesting... 2.2 degrees and no rubbing?
Helix and H-sport springs aside, is the car completely stock? (not that I can think of any other modifications that would have bearing on clearance - it seems strictly a spring diameter and lowering issue).
In general, does the Mini's gain camber when it is lowered? I know the double wishbones do, but I didn't think strut type in Mini would.
Helix and H-sport springs aside, is the car completely stock? (not that I can think of any other modifications that would have bearing on clearance - it seems strictly a spring diameter and lowering issue).
In general, does the Mini's gain camber when it is lowered? I know the double wishbones do, but I didn't think strut type in Mini would.
Last edited by vano; 05-15-2008 at 08:04 AM.
#4
Lowering will gain rear camber but very little / none up front.
There was no rubbing and I didn't "massage" the inside of the tower. (There are ribs on the inside that you'll rub first, taking a hammer to them will net some more clearance.) Nothing else to impact things. And I had more room to go.
The real kicker? When I switched to coilovers with integrated camber plates, now I can't get anything more than 2.2* because the plates are at their maximum adjustment range. Other people with same coilovers can get 3*. Conundrum. Effects of poor roads? Maybe?
There was no rubbing and I didn't "massage" the inside of the tower. (There are ribs on the inside that you'll rub first, taking a hammer to them will net some more clearance.) Nothing else to impact things. And I had more room to go.
The real kicker? When I switched to coilovers with integrated camber plates, now I can't get anything more than 2.2* because the plates are at their maximum adjustment range. Other people with same coilovers can get 3*. Conundrum. Effects of poor roads? Maybe?
#5
That is surprising - I would guess that the coilover camber plate would allow more than 2.2. How could there be so much variation between two cars - over 1 degree is a lot.
Thanks for the suggestion to call TSW - I spoke with them and it looks like their springs are .5" diameter lower. By banging out the ribs I can get 2.2 - 2.3 degrees with no rubbing. The even better news is that TSW is working on a spring for the Mini that will not have the egg shaped design and will be straight instead. This should give even more clearance - maybe enough to make the Helix camber plate the bottleneck for negative camber.
Calling Helix now to find out what the theoretical maximum camber is.
Thanks for the suggestion to call TSW - I spoke with them and it looks like their springs are .5" diameter lower. By banging out the ribs I can get 2.2 - 2.3 degrees with no rubbing. The even better news is that TSW is working on a spring for the Mini that will not have the egg shaped design and will be straight instead. This should give even more clearance - maybe enough to make the Helix camber plate the bottleneck for negative camber.
Calling Helix now to find out what the theoretical maximum camber is.
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