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Old May 28, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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just averaged 30.6 mpg on a road trip.

this was in hot weather (80s-90s F) with the AC on the whole time.

The route was pretty hilly--enough to make my ears pop.

on the way there in traffic, average speed was crappy. maybe half the trip was at the limit and the other half was crawling.

on the way back, mid 70s to 80s in light traffic.

it's reassuring but leads me to believe my mediocre gas mileage on my commute is the fault of my lead foot.
 
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Old May 28, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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OK, you guys aren't going to believe this, but I just drove from Terre Haute Indiana, to Edinboro PA, (just under 500 miles) and I averaged just under 36 MPG. Yes, that is 36mpg... Speed was over 70MPH the whole way. I'm sure the 20 mph tailwind had a lot to do with it, but this was far higher than I had planned. So far, over the 1st 16,000 miles, I'm now back over 30 mpg average. Pretty good for an AWD vehicle.
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Bielick
OK, you guys aren't going to believe this, but I just drove from Terre Haute Indiana, to Edinboro PA, (just under 500 miles) and I averaged just under 36 MPG. Yes, that is 36mpg... Speed was over 70MPH the whole way. I'm sure the 20 mph tailwind had a lot to do with it, but this was far higher than I had planned. So far, over the 1st 16,000 miles, I'm now back over 30 mpg average. Pretty good for an AWD vehicle.
based on my trip above, I'm less surprised than I would have been pre-trip.

I wouldn't be surprised if a flat-road 70+mph-with-cruise-control road trip reached into the mid to high 30s like you just got.
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Chevron 92 octane with 10% ethanol i get 25-26 mpg all day every day :-/ Mostly city driving, basically. I'm on an island so there's never really an opportunity to go on a highway cruise for very long :p
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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I'm getting around 28 ...320ish a tank, mostly city with kn drop in filter

In Virginia....93 octane
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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My kingdom for some 93 oct fuel. =(

Guess we cant have it all out West.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bakerbrdz
I'm getting around 28 ...320ish a tank, mostly city with kn drop in filter

In Virginia....93 octane
Are you taking it all the way down to empty?

I'm only getting about 265-280 at tank with 1 or 2 lights left (mostly try to fill with 2 lights still on) I have read that it is not good for this motor to take the tank down to almost empty-empty!
 
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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I'm driving my new countryman for a week and found it good in all sides and one thing which fascinates me most is its fuel economy. Its about 30 MPG and just a ton of fun to drive.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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Refilled yeserday at 250 miles and one light. Wife drove the car all week as I was out of town. Our fuel mileage has gone from bad to worse with the new high pressure fuel pump.
Computer 23.4mpg
Actual 22.9mpg

This is the combined highway and city? Obviously this car is far from efficient. We never drive in sport mode either. This is the fourth tank I have closely montiored recently so I am accurate on the numbers. Only one tank got 25.1average. two were 22.9 and one was in the 24s.

I would never recommend this car to anyone. Feel free to peruse my other posts. I will be adding the newest list of items which are broken or not working properly.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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And another tank ful at 23.9 computer versus
23.3 actual mileage.

I think it's actually worse when my wife drives it.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 08:13 AM
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Had to fill again this morning. Trip says 24 m.p.g.

Calculated is 22.5. average city and highway? O.M.F.G.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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my 03/2012 USA CMS All4 is getting great gas mileage:

last tank all in town driving was 27.1 mpg calculated, mostly using sport button
last tank mixed city/highway driving was 31.2 mpg calculated (sport button in town / cruise on highway)
last tank all highway was 40.1 mpg, 65mph gps (67 indicated) with cruise on, 200 miles out and back

my window sticker says 25 mpg city and 31 mpg highway

on fillup, the OBC shows over 430 mile to empty, i get 70-80 miles til first light out on the gas gauge

i am burning Mobil 93 octane fuel with NO ETHANOL, using Mobil1 0W40 Euro blend oil (LL-01 rated)

i ignored the dealer advise to "break it in easy", used full throttle, but limited the rpm to 4500 for first 1200 miles,

after hitting 1200 miles, i went out in the country and ran 200 miles mostly above 4500 rpm, mostly 1st-3rd gears on twisty and hilly back roads, many stops/ full throttle starts due to stop signs

filled up before and after and got 18.4 mpg, the worst i have seen

i did hit the speed limiter in 6th gear

scott
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Knownman, how has your gas mileage been in other cars that you have owned? Do you tend to want to move forward quickly when the light goes green? Do you take it easy between lights, or do you tend to be on the gas and then on the brakes? How about your wife?
My hubby likes to be moving quickly as soon as he gets a green, and he doesn't coast between lights. He wants to be toward the front of the fast moving pack, rather than let them go by. He doesn't want people passing him by. On the other hand, I tend to be a laid back driver... not slow, so much as not fast. We get totally different mpgs out of our cars, by as much as three or four mpg. He's getting on Fuelly.com now too, so that we have real numbers to guide us.

It sure could be that your car is not running properly, and that is the cause of its inefficiency, but you may or may not be able to fix that. However, if it is also influenced by your traffic, driving habits, or terrain, you can actually do something about that part. :-)
 

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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Either way

Originally Posted by JoanieB
Knownman, how has your gas mileage been in other cars that you have owned? Do you tend to want to move forward quickly when the light goes green? Do you take it easy between lights, or do you tend to be on the gas and then on the brakes? How about your wife?
My hubby likes to be moving quickly as soon as he gets a green, and he doesn't coast between lights. He wants to be toward the front of the fast moving pack, rather than let them go by. He doesn't want people passing him by. On the other hand, I tend to be a laid back driver... not slow, so much as not fast. We get totally different mpgs out of our cars, by as much as three or four mpg. He's getting on Fuelly.com now too, so that we have real numbers to guide us.

It sure could be that your car is not running properly, and that is the cause of its inefficiency, but you may or may not be able to fix that. However, if it is also influenced by your traffic, driving habits, or terrain, you can actually do something about that part. :-)

Sometimes I take it real easy, I've got a 7 month old. Other times I drive her fairly hard in sport. I've driven from N.J. to Chicago rela easy all highway. Averaged 24.6 I've used 93, 91 and 89 octane. I've filled the tires to 40 psi, 38, 34. Reliaze I have had the car for over a year and have yet to see anything near highway mileage ever.

My wife has driven the car all on her own and is easier on the gas than I am.

My concern is that in my 85' mustang GT i drove the hell out of it and would get 25 mpg highway with a Holley 4 barrel thru the mountains of P.A. Driving like a only an 18 year old kid can.
My work vehicle claims it will get up to 40 mpg and it exceeds this on a regular basis. Every vehicle I have owned in the past 25 years has met or exceeded the mileage the manufacturer has claimed it would especially in the highway mileage.
I did have one loaner that I ran almost a tank thru because of the down time. It averaged 26 or 27 mpg. I couldn't really count on this because I didn't do the initial fill up.

I believe Mini has severly over rated the efficiency of this car. Or our car has a huge drag on it that hasn't been diagnosed properly.

Wednesday it goes in again for this and three other service repairs.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Knownman
Sometimes I take it real easy, I've got a 7 month old. Other times I drive her fairly hard in sport. I've driven from N.J. to Chicago rela easy all highway. Averaged 24.6 I've used 93, 91 and 89 octane. I've filled the tires to 40 psi, 38, 34. Reliaze I have had the car for over a year and have yet to see anything near highway mileage ever.

My wife has driven the car all on her own and is easier on the gas than I am.

My concern is that in my 85' mustang GT i drove the hell out of it and would get 25 mpg highway with a Holley 4 barrel thru the mountains of P.A. Driving like a only an 18 year old kid can.
My work vehicle claims it will get up to 40 mpg and it exceeds this on a regular basis. Every vehicle I have owned in the past 25 years has met or exceeded the mileage the manufacturer has claimed it would especially in the highway mileage.
I did have one loaner that I ran almost a tank thru because of the down time. It averaged 26 or 27 mpg. I couldn't really count on this because I didn't do the initial fill up.

I believe Mini has severly over rated the efficiency of this car. Or our car has a huge drag on it that hasn't been diagnosed properly.

Wednesday it goes in again for this and three other service repairs.
Well the rest of us getting much better mileage would suggest the latter. The EPA is the one that comes up with the numbers, not MINI.

Its hard to say since there are a variety of factors that can contribute to MPG. I get better mileage than my 4 cylinder outback (which is still great for a vehicle that big), despite it being a turbo and driving it harder. But its also a lighter, more aerodynamic car.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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Here is the page for Countryman vehicles on Fuelly.com, real tracking of MPG by real people:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/mini/countryman

Edit: after looking at the individual Countryman entries, there is a difference between the MPG for city and for highway for the CMs. Interesting comparisons between cars. Maybe some info to winnow out here...
Hope you resolve it!!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JoanieB
Here is the page for Countryman vehicles on Fuelly.com, real tracking of MPG by real people:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/mini/countryman

Edit: after looking at the individual Countryman entries, there is a difference between the MPG for city and for highway for the CMs. Interesting comparisons between cars. Maybe some info to winnow out here...
Hope you resolve it!!

Fuelly doesn't take into account a few things.
what model, at least not accurately
motor, turbo size etc...
driveline wheels
what fuel grade, you have to note it


Each of these makes a difference.

I have added my car to the total of 25 now cars on that site. It is really no where near reliable. If people were really thrilled about the mileage this car offers I think we would be seeing more boasting and fewer complaints.

We have a Countryman All4 auto. in the states and normally run on 91 but sometimes 93 depending on how quickly it runs thru the gas. and where the dealer is. Always name brands though.

As for the EPA Estimates. They are based off of the manufacturers testing and reports. The Epa calculates what they should do. They don't report results from actual testing.

It is a difference.

At least some of you have decent results but still others are as bad or worse.
 

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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Heck, my pick-up truck gets 11 mpg, in town. The MINI, at worst gets double that and at best gets triple that. I think it is just the greatest thing since sliced bread!

Dave
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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the best ive ever gotten with Southern california gas 91 octane is 323 miles to 11.6 gallons, so about 27 MPG. This is with me goosing it lightly and almost all hwy driving.

Worst tank i got is probably 260 or so. Man i wish I could get higher up into the 30 MPG range!!!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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I am averaging ~25 mpg. I drive ~80 mph on the freeway. And while I don't drive like a jackass around town, I don't hesitate to open it up a little, either.

Coming from a 4Runner that was giving me about 16 mpg, I am pretty satisfied. My only gripe is that the tank is a bit small. 12.4 gallons ain't much. I'd really love to see it have at least 14.5 gallons of non-reserve capacity.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 05:42 AM
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We had a 2005 cooper mini with the little motor in it first. Taded it in and by looking at the sticker on the window we guessed we would lose 2 or 3 miles per gallon max.

Turns out 8 to 10 was a more accurate number lost per gallon.

We drive the same route, same drivers, same times of year, higher octane across the board and the new car. It just hurts the wallet. There are many cars out there that perform as well as this that kill these numbers in fuel economy.

If we could do it all over again I wouldn't choose a Mini.

It's just too expensive to operate as a daily driver.
 

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Got my 6th loaner Countryman All4s this time. Had to make a set call and put a little over 80 miles on it so far in 97 degree heat.

Computer is calculating 32mpg so far.

with 89 octane and two 210lb guys in it.

Maybe it is just our car? This is kind of why I keep adding to the forum. If there are just underperforming cars out there Mini should in a perfect world try and make these right instead of making "mileage will vary" blanket statements.

Hopefully some of you out there who have gas hogs will question this and speak up.

Maybe some will even get help?

It's only your money!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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it is your car, we've said taht a few times.

but you should also be putting in higher grade gas too. The type of gas also makes a difference. German cars can't deal with ethanol.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojito
it is your car, we've said taht a few times.

but you should also be putting in higher grade gas too. The type of gas also makes a difference. German cars can't deal with ethanol.

I always use at least 91 in ours. This is a loaner and I could really care less. Besides the dealer said 89 is enough. Even with 93 the mileage has been consistantly under what it should be.

BTW

What do you think about the oil change once a year? Nothing says carbon build up more than recircing oil for 15,000 miles before the first oil change? Even the previous service manager who left for Honda raised his eyebrow about that one. These cars are turbo charged and should be seeing more regular intervals not less. Of course than that Service Program for $1900 bucks wouldn't make any money now would it?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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Just completed an enjoyable 500 mile loop from near sea level to 7500' and back. Averaged about 35 mpg (30 uphill leg, 40 downhill). AC used for about 1/2 of trip.

The current MINI oil change interval (as of March 2012) is 10k miles or 1 year.
 
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