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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by danjreed
This, or a failed PCV/valve cover both cause "oil burning".

Do you have any codes or engine lights?

I'd look into that before I poured a can of magic goop into the engine..

Ps - the magic cans of goop never fix anything..
No engine light or any codes because I have a Garmin Mechanic connected to it so it tells me details for an engine light and some readings too like temp, intake, timing etc.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 10:28 PM
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With the engine idling take off the oil filter cap turn it upside down it should just bounce around if it blows off bad rings and cylinders are probable also put your hand over the opening you should now feel a low but good suction. have an assistant rev to 2000rpm the suction should increase and level off. if the valve cover vacuum breather control is not working properly you will suck lots of oil but in most cases I think the engine will be toast by the time you know a turbo leak would be a good outcome a dealer rebuilt engine is about 3500 plus shipping etc. A swap is not a hard job if you have the right set up but it is a good job. Hmm its warm there and freezing here if you have a super nice garage and tools I might travel or I was looking for a spare n14 r56 to fix up.
I love to do that but I don't have the space to do it and this is actually my first car. I am more familiar with a motorcycle so it's a big which one is which for me right now .
 
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
Maybe this wasn't the case for the OP but I have a suggestion.

Since our cars tend to run fairly rich as designed by the manufacturer, ALWAYS make sure to drive your MINI for a while getting a smog test done.

Just driving a few blocks to a state inspection station for your appointment is not far/long enough for the engine and exhaust system ( cat ) to warm up to operating temps.
I could try that. Actually I just found out it was smoking when I brought it to the SMOG test. I use it everyday to go to work and when it is warmed up and you came to a stop while waiting for the traffic light to turn green it is quiet like your engine has stalled on you but you can see at the tachometer it is still running.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 11:02 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback. I put an action cam at the back of my car to see how bad the smoke is while driving it normally on my way to work and it was barely nothing. I can still do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds but this time with a little smokescreen . Anyway I'm still waiting for my Tax return to get this car fixed but I'll keep you posted. In the meantime here is one of my fun ride with my MINI six months ago --->
 
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 11:35 PM
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Its never fun when these things happen there are some causes which are no big deal. These engines have excellent ignition and fuel controls so they will keep going until the pistons are seized in the bores unfortunately you need to pass inspection to stay on the road. With direct injection engines that get fouled the rings and cylinders loose their sealing ability but Fingers crossed you may be OK go to the Mini Dealer if you need an answer, have some coffee, take a test drive, lounge about and let them give you the list of stuff it needs they will include it all and the price will be high but you have options, if you don't have a good space to work on the car ask around maybe you can get some help with that. Yes I'm very into just digging in and I think this stuff is fun so if you go that way the way to approach the mini is a bit different with hood up the front body work snaps off the bumper comes off the radiator goes away the ac is the only real kicker now its a lot like working on a bike
 
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Old Feb 26, 2015 | 11:52 PM
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does your car make some funny noisy when the smoke came out? like metal clatter, tapping noise?


Originally Posted by Garivel
Thanks for all the feedback. I put an action cam at the back of my car to see how bad the smoke is while driving it normally on my way to work and it was barely nothing. I can still do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds but this time with a little smokescreen . Anyway I'm still waiting for my Tax return to get this car fixed but I'll keep you posted. In the meantime here is one of my fun ride with my MINI six months ago ---> Descent Into Mystery - Gotham City - YouTube
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 01:10 AM
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I may be way off base here, but we recently had a smoking issue with one of our 2013 Ford Police Interceptors. Direct-injected 3.5L V6 Twin Turbo. The issue was solved with a re-designed valve cover and PCV for the right-side head. I suspect that direct injection and turbo is causing many issues lately. Perhaps the PCV blowby is being introduced into the combustion chamber at the wrong time? This Interceptor looked like she was laying down a smoke-screen. New valve cover and PCV system fixed it. Something to look at, maybe?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Garivel
Thanks for all the feedback. I put an action cam at the back of my car to see how bad the smoke is while driving it normally on my way to work and it was barely nothing. I can still do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds but this time with a little smokescreen . Anyway I'm still waiting for my Tax return to get this car fixed but I'll keep you posted. In the meantime here is one of my fun ride with my MINI six months ago ---> Video Link: http://youtu.be/ru0GaO50hMQ
You never did 0-60 in 5 seconds....ever....
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 01:30 AM
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The problem with this car is getting the right mechanic to diagnose it. I already brought this to several auto shops here in LA with high ratings on yelp but they just assume what's wrong with it without even checking the car and then tell me to bring it somewhere else or change the engine. They just don't want to admit they don't know how to fix it, I can tell because most of them have a hard time trying to figure out how to open the hood .
There is no problem with finding the right mechanic..there is a building probably right off the 405 like everything else in LA that has a big MINI banner on the side of it, where I have no doubts that you will find mechanics who have worked on a MINI before. So please stop the madness, wasting time driving from random shop to random shop on San Gabriel Blvd. when they can't figure it out. Whether they deserve to be in the same family or not MINI is owned by BMW. This isn't a Honda, ford etc where all the mechanical pieces are big, apparent and very easy to service. The car has design quirks and annoyances..Just go to the dealer...they are going to charge you a diagnostic fee but at least you will know the issue. If it works out - great. If not I'll be in LA in 2 weeks and give you an extremely low offer on the busted car and cart it home to NJ :-)
 

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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kahnfucious
You never did 0-60 in 5 seconds....ever....


and this guy speaks the truth. these cars are too complicated to just take to any yokel down the road and expect a 100% accurate diagnosis. several very knowledgeable people have told you good steps to take, ignore at your own risk. there are several cheaper fixes, there are plenty of not so cheap fixes, and there are plenty of places to dump money with 0 improvement.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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Hi Lets build support for the Mini it may have a quirk or two but its nothing mysterious and quite fun to work on I’m sure there are plenty of good mechanics about to get a better price than the dealer from. The dealer is just an easy suggestion but in no way the only way. Best result would be that the car gets fixed by its owner and more mods get planned.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kahnfucious
You never did 0-60 in 5 seconds....ever....
Obviously he's done an engine swap and converted to awd
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Maybe 0-60 might not be so far fetched in a month or two. LMFAO.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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Sorry for the late reply. I got my MCS checked at MiniWorx West LA and this was the diagnosis and repairs made to eliminate the smoke.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 08:46 PM
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What in the world is a motor oil saver ? If your burning oil put new plugs in the engine ?!?! Interesting
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 09:08 PM
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What in the world is a motor oil saver ? If your burning oil put new plugs in the engine ?!?! Interesting
It's an oil additive - in the description it calls out liquid moly engine oil saver...helps to restore seals according to the product page in Amazon.

As for the OP - have you learned your lesson on going to random shops now? I am assuming at this point that mini worx smogged the car too?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kahnfucious
It's an oil additive - in the description it calls out liquid moly engine oil saver...helps to restore seals according to the product page in Amazon.

As for the OP - have you learned your lesson on going to random shops now? I am assuming at this point that mini worx smogged the car too?
MiniWorx don't do SMOG test. After 500 miles they want me to go back to check the oil consumption.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 06:19 AM
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I have heard that filling your car with a very heavy will slow oil burning in order to pass an emission test. Change your oil, get the car checked, and then change your oil. It's an old car dealers trick. IT WILL NOT FIX ANYTHING, but may allow you to pass your test.

I have also heard that a good diagnostic test is to look at the color of the smoke. If the smoke is gray/black, the problem is 'oil' related. If the smoke is white, the problem lies elsewhere. Sorry I can't tell you more about this as I have never had this problem

Good luck on finding the cause of your problem.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Goldsmithy
I have heard that filling your car with a very heavy will slow oil burning in order to pass an emission test. Change your oil, get the car checked, and then change your oil. It's an old car dealers trick. IT WILL NOT FIX ANYTHING, but may allow you to pass your test.

I have also heard that a good diagnostic test is to look at the color of the smoke. If the smoke is gray/black, the problem is 'oil' related. If the smoke is white, the problem lies elsewhere. Sorry I can't tell you more about this as I have never had this problem

Good luck on finding the cause of your problem.
Thanks. That's what I'm thinking about at least it will give me time to save money to let someone work on the engine. I know the problem is internally in the engine but they just don't want to work on it because it's a lot of work.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 10:36 PM
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Thanks. That's what I'm thinking about at least it will give me time to save money to let someone work on the engine. I know the problem is internally in the engine but they just don't want to work on it because it's a lot of work.
Don't do this on a turbo car which is pulling it's oil from your main oil supply..wrong weight oil or kind of oil in a unit turning at 150,000+ RPMs could yield very bad results .. Blown seals, blown turbo etc..

I'm not enough of an expert on your turbo to tell you if it will work out or not but don't blindly try this trick.

Also your diagnosis from mini worx says the car is operating normally - is that not true?

I'll say this again - stop playing the old ford/Chevy tricks on a newer sophisticated car.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kahnfucious
Don't do this on a turbo car which is pulling it's oil from your main oil supply..wrong weight oil or kind of oil in a unit turning at 150,000+ RPMs could yield very bad results .. Blown seals, blown turbo etc..

I'm not enough of an expert on your turbo to tell you if it will work out or not but don't blindly try this trick.

Also your diagnosis from mini worx says the car is operating normally - is that not true?

I'll say this again - stop playing the old ford/Chevy tricks on a newer sophisticated car.
Can someone recommend me a mechanic in LA that knows how to tear apart a Mini Cooper engine without hesitation? I guess I just have to bring this to the dealer to get it fixed.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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Really, a shop doesn't want to work on it because it is a big job?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 01:35 PM
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Really, a shop doesn't want to work on it because it is a big job?
Yes that's true. After they did that kind of fix I told them how much will it cost to replace the engine for my MCS because I know there is a problem internally and they told me that and it will cost like 8 to 10k and they do not advise that because of financial reason and I will leave the car for a week etc.. in other words discouraging me not to do it. The final words was "Let's see first if this will solve your smoking issue. Bring it back after 500 miles and we'll top it off with oil".
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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What 8 to 10k for engine swap crazy in a good shop that knows its stuff it should be a cake job $3500-$4000 rebuilt unit very complete and a couple days work add a few odds and ends, should be around $6000, unless you get a new turbo or something. Also if your compression is good and you are not getting bad blow-by it could be something more technical. white smoke is oil not to be confused with water vapor, black is fuel. OIL sources, valve guides, past piston rings, leaky head gasket, crack, turbo seals, crank case breather system. did they scope your cylinders? value is relative if this is a car you really like what would it cost to get an almost new one. these are not super complicated engines just a bit quirky. It sucks that you don't have any work space can you ask around these are fun cars that are worth getting to know and mod with a turbo upgrade and tune you could be under your 5sec if you want, add some suspension work and brakes and its a fun day at the track.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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You should take it to Motoring Magic in Thousand Oaks, CA for a second opinion on possible engine problems. They specialize in the Mini Cooper and I highly recommend them.

It does sound like you're jumping to conclusions though, assuming that there is some major engine problem just because you have a small amount of smoke out the back. And there is a difference between smoke out the tailpipe being caused by oil (loss) inside the engine versus oil loss outside the engine caused by a leaking gasket or cracked oil cooler or something.
 
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