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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Seriously not fake??? You turn it on with a button. Sigh...

We're out!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by R*C
Nice. I can't wait to try it out.
You're going to love it! My friends (mainly GTI drivers) are all quite jealous
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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I rarely use my sport button and at the same time I am a spirited driver.

How many other cars out there can change the sound of their exhaust at the press of a button? Pretty cool, but really just a gimmick...unless the exhaust flow is less restricted with this feature. Is it?

BUT, if you don't like the burbles and pops, then just turn off sport mode.

If I am not mistaken, unless you have an auto trans, there isn't really much of a difference between sport and regular mode. It's not like the car handles better or is faster when sport mode is on... You just press the accelerator slightly less (as it's more sensitive) and the steering feels heavier but isn't actually changing the ride quality or dampening level.

If the car changed the boost level, restricted the exhaust less (that is the pop and burble sound they are going for, right?) and made the suspension dampening tighter then I'd take the sport button more seriously. Maybe next generation?

So, really, you're not missing out on much if you keep it sport mode off, in my opinion.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by christomapher
How many other cars out there can change the sound of their exhaust at the press of a button? Pretty cool, but really just a gimmick...unless the exhaust flow is less restricted with this feature. Is it?
So what is really happening to change the exhaust note with the push of the button? What physical change is taking place with the exhaust system? Just curious how it works...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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I'm trying to understand need for the pops and burbles. Does it make the car go faster? Does it improve the fuel economy? The car is already cool. Is there some inherent coolness that this imparts on the car that it doesn't already have. I just don't get it.

Must be an age thing!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PatM
I'm trying to understand need for the pops and burbles. Does it make the car go faster? Does it improve the fuel economy? The car is already cool. Is there some inherent coolness that this imparts on the car that it doesn't already have. I just don't get it.

Must be an age thing!
It was cool on the originals and it's still cool today... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zws5cmozaJo

I remember seeing classic Minis which would do this without any modification and without any "sport mode" button. The pop and burble in the new generation is just a nod to the classic IMO.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by R*C
It was cool on the originals and it's still cool today... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zws5cmozaJo

The pop and burble in the new generation is just a nod to the classic IMO.
Ok I can understand that.

Thanks
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Melangell
Yes, a laud... or loud "pat", just like the backfire from an old Beetle. I could understand when pulling off from 4000 rpm but "burbling/backfiring" between city blocks? Please someone figure out how to get rid of this. The improved throttle response and tighter steering of the sport button is great, but I don't need fake muscle car noise and/or backfires.
I so wish I could trade your sound for mine. I love the Pop and Burble and as of yet there is no way I can get it...

Larry
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by R*C
So what is really happening to change the exhaust note with the push of the button? What physical change is taking place with the exhaust system? Just curious how it works...
After you lift off, couple drops of petrol gets drooped to the hot exhaust hence the little explosions.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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From what I understand the ECU is telling the injectors to continue their injector pulse for a little while after you let off the gas. This is introducing a small amount of unburnt fuel vapor in the hot exhaust. Once the vapor gets hot enough it ignites and creates the noise. A lot of older cars will do this since their have carbs and not injectors.

WRC cars will do this also but theirs has a real purpose. Its a system call anti-lag system or ALS. It keeps the turbo spooled up and making maximum power. Theirs will retard the timing, quite a lot sometimes, and then keep injecting fuel. This then detonates in the exhaust manifold and keeps the turbo spooled.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Thanks for shedding light on how the noise is made. Now if only we knew whether this actually makes a difference in performance or if it is merely another tactic to make the car seem cooler.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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I don't think it has anything to do with performance. At least my gut tells me that. I don't know for certain but it makes sense.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 11:19 PM
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my GP burbles and pops all day long and I love it. Its definitely a distinct sound that makes my GP sound like it means business!

But sadly the wife's MCS does not pop or burble and that is quite disappointing b/c it looks like a JCW but without any bite...boo.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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I'm so used to this from my other car I don't notice it as much in the cooper, especially with how much quieter it is. I also haven't had it in sport mode as much, I am only 180 miles in. I was told as far as break in, just don't use cruise control for 1,200 miles, otherwise fair game. I might stretch its legs a bit more this next weekend. But I don't want to really push it until I get over 1,200- 1,500 miles. But by then it will be winter.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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I didnt use the Sport button during the whole break in period. Once you start using it you will hear it and it gets better as the miles rack up.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pheatton
I didnt use the Sport button during the whole break in period. Once you start using it you will hear it and it gets better as the miles rack up.
Why didn't you use the sport button during break in? There is zero harm you can do to the car by using it. Even during break in. Just wondering. I can't drive my cars without the sport button on. It's the first button I pushed when I drove the car off the dealers lot. All it does is make the throttle more responsive and changes the PS response calibration.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Drexial
I was told as far as break in, just don't use cruise control for 1,200 miles, otherwise fair game.
Curious... Why? I always felt that the break-in period was just about keeping the revs below a reasonable threshold. What would be the problem with cruise control?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Curious... Why? I always felt that the break-in period was just about keeping the revs below a reasonable threshold. What would be the problem with cruise control?
I think the original recommendation from BMW is to not cruiser over 100mph for extended periods of time during the first 1,200 miles to allow the rings to seat properly and break in oils to work their magic in ///M cars. After 1,200 miles, you would bring in your ///M car to get the break-in oils replaced with the normal stuff. For non-M cars, they didn't use break-in oils but rather just recommended you not drive over 100mph for extended periods.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Darn, now my commute will be no fun!
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by R*C
Curious... Why? I always felt that the break-in period was just about keeping the revs below a reasonable threshold. What would be the problem with cruise control?
Its the long term steady speed they are tying to eliminate. Variance in speed and thus rpm are good for seating the rings and getting the bearings to mate well.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PatM
Why didn't you use the sport button during break in? There is zero harm you can do to the car by using it. Even during break in. Just wondering. I can't drive my cars without the sport button on. It's the first button I pushed when I drove the car off the dealers lot. All it does is make the throttle more responsive and changes the PS response calibration.
Well seeing as now when I do drive with it on there is quite a bit of over 4500RPM shifts... hehe

Hard to not do it when its on so I decided I would not even tempt my self. No at 10k its on everytime I drive unless the weather is poor.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PatM
Its the long term steady speed they are tying to eliminate. Variance in speed and thus rpm are good for seating the rings and getting the bearings to mate well.
The answer I got was along these lines.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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Awesome, I just tried out the pop and burble on my 2012 MCSa and it sounds great. I tested with the vehicle parked, in Sport, and just revved to around 2500 or 3000RPM. It was super noticable and super loud. Doesn't happen much in regular driving though.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by R*C
Awesome, I just tried out the pop and burble on my 2012 MCSa and it sounds great. I tested with the vehicle parked, in Sport, and just revved to around 2500 or 3000RPM. It was super noticable and super loud. Doesn't happen much in regular driving though.
I went to SeaTac airport to pick up some one. I had to park in the indoor parking... OH. MY. GOD! With the help of echo, it is no longer pop or burble, it is a thunder!
 
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Nice. Now I feel an urge to go somewhere that has indoor parking...
 
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