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R56 Redefining the Muscle Car (Good Read)

Old Dec 8, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Woody09
Funny, I never thought of a Corvette as a muscle car any more than I think of a Ferrari or Lamborghini as one. Maybe it is, though. Especially the late 60s Corvettes. It's a great car that has muscle, but as a 2 seater you can actually turn? I still don't think so. I just sold a 400 HP Z28 "go fast car" to order a MINI (my kids may never forgive me!), and I didn't think of that as a muscle car either.

The muscle car died in about '72, and can't be resurrected. Computer control, smooth idles, and the ability to actually turn and stop, all take the adventure out of driving that muscle cars provided. They had their time, and the current versions (Camaro, Challenger) will last a couple more years, before they go away. I will smile and wave goodbye as I disappear down a nice crooked road, having found another equally entertaining way to thoroughly enjoy the privilege of driving. That doesn't mean the MINI is a muscle car, in my opinion. It is a completely different, yet equal kind of fun. Not to mention a LOT safer!!!

You can't redefine an icon to make them fit current rules! It is what it is.
Originally Posted by SoldierNurse
I agree, a C4 - C6 Corvette ain't a Muscle Car, rather a Sports Car. For reasons too numerous to mention here, I'm enjoying my 09 MCS w/JCW TK far more than the 01 Corvette [heavily modded w/480bhp] I sold.

However, since my 09 MCS has back seats it is definitely not a sports car, even when I fold them down to fool myself into thinking it is a sports car.
Yet, my Silver Critter is one fun little, mighty ride.
Since the article itself on page two has a picture of a "modern" C6 Corvette( commenting on its inefficiency) and below that lists the C6 in its collected data I took that as opening the door to include the Corvette in their version of "muscle" cars. In a loose sense any American car with a big powerful V-8 can be classified as a Muscle car unlike a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine with a power adder. My new Mini is my daily, year round driver and the Corvette is my weekend warrior. If I had to choose I will take my American V-8 no questions asked ,but I dont have to choose, and I can enjoy both.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeM
Great read!

Although, I don't know if I'd call any of those cars a "Muscle Car". I owned a 69' Camaro back in the day. That car cannot be compared to the muscle cars of today. It went beyond HP, it was the whole experience. The lumpy engines, the raw handling and sound sensory overload when driving, defined that class of cars.
It was raw as all get out. But it was a good kind of raw. The same kind of raw like your first bite of that perfectly done semi-raw steak. Or the first biting cold raw of the season in the Northeast. It wakes you and then slaps you and then slaps you some more and then sends shivers down your spine. I don't feel that with the Mini. The Mini is more refined in delivery and handling and includes cup holders and mood lighting. With the Muscle Cars, you smelled like fuel when you stepped out of the cabin....Two totally different experiences.

I wish they wouldn't call these types of cars "Muscle Cars" as that term should be reserved for that wonderful era. They have to come up with this generation's own name to define the high HP cars of today.

Amen.

You said it perfectly.

I drove a 68 Camaro SS about a year ago. Sinfully loud, rough, completely bad a$$ to the bone- leave that level of cool to its own category.

Its beyond awesome.

I love my Mini, but come on, most muscle cars are a league all their own. They should leave it that way.



Beautiful!
 
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwell
Amen.

You said it perfectly.

I drove a 68 Camaro SS about a year ago. Sinfully loud, rough, completely bad a$$ to the bone- leave that level of cool to its own category.

Its beyond awesome.

I love my Mini, but come on, most muscle cars are a league all their own. They should leave it that way.



Beautiful!
THAT is a true American Muscle car!

Long live the FBody...
 
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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All I got out of that was that the Mini produces almost the last in HP and lb/hp is the most out of all compared.

That sucks....

Mark
 
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