R56 I have a dumb question
Remember Reds, we are all mini under the skin. So speed on for the good of the Lightning Black Sparkling Astro... geez, I'm gonna come up with a better name for this thing. I cant keep typing this name!
And I shall piratically lead us on to domination!
By the way, I think I may FINALLY be getting my car tomorrow (hopefully!)
Pillage On.
And I shall piratically lead us on to domination!
By the way, I think I may FINALLY be getting my car tomorrow (hopefully!)
Pillage On.
mysticturner,
Lord and Master? I think not. I wrote the bylaws. There are no mutiny's here. Another infraction of such magnitude and your Mini will be blasted from the seas and you will be set adrift in a scuttled Prius.
As it stands, your punishment is to wash and wax 10 Lightning Blue Minis with a toothbrush.
Lord and Master? I think not. I wrote the bylaws. There are no mutiny's here. Another infraction of such magnitude and your Mini will be blasted from the seas and you will be set adrift in a scuttled Prius.
As it stands, your punishment is to wash and wax 10 Lightning Blue Minis with a toothbrush.
I'd offer to keelhaul any offenders but my sailboats hull is barnacle free and thus the threat is much less severe.
I was using the term scuttled in the Mini vernacular if you would look at the early postings centered around the word.
And I too am a sailor. Instructor even. So far be it from me to misuse a nautical term. But good catch.
And you need to grow some barnacles on your hull so the keel haulings will be effective as I doubt you have a yardarm on your boat with which to hang the offenders from.
And I too am a sailor. Instructor even. So far be it from me to misuse a nautical term. But good catch.
And you need to grow some barnacles on your hull so the keel haulings will be effective as I doubt you have a yardarm on your boat with which to hang the offenders from.
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Seeing as there are no Lighting Blue's fast enough to catch a BRG, your threats are meaningless. What makes all of it even more meaningless, is that the party fund has been absconded with by my minions and is being converted into margaritas as we speak. And it wasn't a mutiny. As you correctly stated, mutiny's are not allowed by the bylaws. That's why we staged a coup d'etat, which as you quite clearly stated on pages 297, 307, and documented in appendix 45c.5, is allowed (and you didn't think anyone would ever read this boring drivel). But since we already made our grab for the party fund, you can have whatever little power you think you might possess back. All us BRG's would rather leave you Lighting Blue's in the dust.
P. S. If you'd like to join us at the bar, you're welcome. We're not sure who but someone else is buying!
P. S. If you'd like to join us at the bar, you're welcome. We're not sure who but someone else is buying!
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From: Montgomery AL
PW > red > blue > green
Honorable Members and Guests:
Some have opined that Blue{1} or Red{2} in whatever variation, is manifestly superior in terms of claimed velocity or, more informally speed -- stated as "fastest". Others have been innocently beguiled into believing such claims stemming from flawed reasoning based on observing the electromagnetic spectrum.
It manifestly self-evident that Pepper White must necessarily surpass any other colour. We shall give proof by noting the seminal work done by SIR ISAAC NEWTON in his youth when he split a beam of white light using a prism, see http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...pticsu/newton/.
Using Newton's findings, we note that white light consists of all other colours, including blue, green, red, and hue mixtures we represent by a simple equation, namely: White = red + blue + green + all other intermediate hues. The proof follows immediately:
a. We now suppose that red > or = 0, blue > or = 0, green > or = 0; and intermediate hues > or = 0;
b. We note claimants specify impure colour variants meaning that the term "other intermediate hues" shall always be strictly > 0;
c. We can conclude therefore that in any actual situation encountered white shall always be superior to 'red' or to 'blue' or to 'green' -- remaining proof steps left as an exercise for the reader.
Interestingly, the algebraic equation given above can also be readily recast into set theory notion giving the patently obvious conclusion Pepper White is a superset of all other colours.
Therefore, we shall now posit the equestrian unit retains not the least scintilla of vital sign(s) ... and move on to debating other inconclusive topics (e.g., perceived acceleration (dis)advantages of racing stripes v. viper stripes).
Yr Humble Servant,
wls
{1} Post #31:
{2} Post #36.
Some have opined that Blue{1} or Red{2} in whatever variation, is manifestly superior in terms of claimed velocity or, more informally speed -- stated as "fastest". Others have been innocently beguiled into believing such claims stemming from flawed reasoning based on observing the electromagnetic spectrum.
It manifestly self-evident that Pepper White must necessarily surpass any other colour. We shall give proof by noting the seminal work done by SIR ISAAC NEWTON in his youth when he split a beam of white light using a prism, see http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...pticsu/newton/.
Using Newton's findings, we note that white light consists of all other colours, including blue, green, red, and hue mixtures we represent by a simple equation, namely: White = red + blue + green + all other intermediate hues. The proof follows immediately:
a. We now suppose that red > or = 0, blue > or = 0, green > or = 0; and intermediate hues > or = 0;
b. We note claimants specify impure colour variants meaning that the term "other intermediate hues" shall always be strictly > 0;
c. We can conclude therefore that in any actual situation encountered white shall always be superior to 'red' or to 'blue' or to 'green' -- remaining proof steps left as an exercise for the reader.
Interestingly, the algebraic equation given above can also be readily recast into set theory notion giving the patently obvious conclusion Pepper White is a superset of all other colours.
Therefore, we shall now posit the equestrian unit retains not the least scintilla of vital sign(s) ... and move on to debating other inconclusive topics (e.g., perceived acceleration (dis)advantages of racing stripes v. viper stripes).
Yr Humble Servant,
wls
{1} Post #31:
{2} Post #36.
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Honorable Members and Guests:
Some have opined that Blue{1} or Red{2} in whatever variation, is manifestly superior in terms of claimed velocity or, more informally speed -- stated as "fastest". Others have been innocently beguiled into believing such claims stemming from flawed reasoning based on observing the electromagnetic spectrum.
It manifestly self-evident that Pepper White must necessarily surpass any other colour. We shall give proof by noting the seminal work done by SIR ISAAC NEWTON in his youth when he split a beam of white light using a prism, see http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...pticsu/newton/.
Using Newton's findings, we note that white light consists of all other colours, including blue, green, red, and hue mixtures we represent by a simple equation, namely: White = red + blue + green + all other intermediate hues. The proof follows immediately:
a. We now suppose that red > or = 0, blue > or = 0, green > or = 0; and intermediate hues > or = 0;
b. We note claimants specify impure colour variants meaning that the term "other intermediate hues" shall always be strictly > 0;
c. We can conclude therefore that in any actual situation encountered white shall always be superior to 'red' or to 'blue' or to 'green' -- remaining proof steps left as an exercise for the reader.
Interestingly, the algebraic equation given above can also be readily recast into set theory notion giving the patently obvious conclusion Pepper White is a superset of all other colours.
Therefore, we shall now posit the equestrian unit retains not the least scintilla of vital sign(s) ... and move on to debating other inconclusive topics (e.g., perceived acceleration (dis)advantages of racing stripes v. viper stripes).
Yr Humble Servant,
wls
{1} Post #31:
{2} Post #36.
Some have opined that Blue{1} or Red{2} in whatever variation, is manifestly superior in terms of claimed velocity or, more informally speed -- stated as "fastest". Others have been innocently beguiled into believing such claims stemming from flawed reasoning based on observing the electromagnetic spectrum.
It manifestly self-evident that Pepper White must necessarily surpass any other colour. We shall give proof by noting the seminal work done by SIR ISAAC NEWTON in his youth when he split a beam of white light using a prism, see http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...pticsu/newton/.
Using Newton's findings, we note that white light consists of all other colours, including blue, green, red, and hue mixtures we represent by a simple equation, namely: White = red + blue + green + all other intermediate hues. The proof follows immediately:
a. We now suppose that red > or = 0, blue > or = 0, green > or = 0; and intermediate hues > or = 0;
b. We note claimants specify impure colour variants meaning that the term "other intermediate hues" shall always be strictly > 0;
c. We can conclude therefore that in any actual situation encountered white shall always be superior to 'red' or to 'blue' or to 'green' -- remaining proof steps left as an exercise for the reader.
Interestingly, the algebraic equation given above can also be readily recast into set theory notion giving the patently obvious conclusion Pepper White is a superset of all other colours.
Therefore, we shall now posit the equestrian unit retains not the least scintilla of vital sign(s) ... and move on to debating other inconclusive topics (e.g., perceived acceleration (dis)advantages of racing stripes v. viper stripes).
Yr Humble Servant,
wls
{1} Post #31:
{2} Post #36.
Let us perform the following mind experiment. Each color (excepting PW) would be tested for speed. Some would be faster than others, some obviously slower (with BRG fastest). Each color would be assigned a number relative to it's ranking in the speed tests. Then PW, being an average of all the colors would simply recieve a ranking equal to the average of all the speed numbers for all the other colors.
So sorry wls, your just average.
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From: Montgomery AL
PW Still Reigns Supreme
I fear, dear colleague, you seem to have overlooked the last term of the equation, namely " + all other intermediate hues". Even if we were to conduct your experiment to compute 'averages' for available colours, the last term would still be additive, resulting in PW being superior to any one of the individual colours, their averages, or their summed factors as previously stated. QED
It is interesting to note, however, that BRG MINIs are a delight to the eye, albeit, not faster!
It is interesting to note, however, that BRG MINIs are a delight to the eye, albeit, not faster!
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I fear, dear colleague, you seem to have overlooked the last term of the equation, namely " + all other intermediate hues". Even if we were to conduct your experiment to compute 'averages' for available colours, the last term would still be additive, resulting in PW being superior to any one of the individual colours, their averages, or their summed factors as previously stated. QED
It is interesting to note, however, that BRG MINIs are a delight to the eye, albeit, not faster!
It is interesting to note, however, that BRG MINIs are a delight to the eye, albeit, not faster!
White = (red + blue + green + all other intermediate hues) / number of all possible colors. And in addition, since white is not a color, it really can't be discussed within the parameters of an additive color equation. And the average calculation would get no added input from the other non-color colors, such as black, dark silver (which is really a gray), browns and so on. So PW is just an average. And thus some specific color must be faster QED. And we all know it's BRG
. But wait - since many of the colors aren't really colors, wouldn't they be able to say that they operate outside of the entire 'my color is faster' argument? Would they be slower? I would think so because how else would the argument have been able to be started? At some past time, the observation must have been made that all colors must be faster than non-colors and thus the statement of fact began the argument. And thus since white is not a color, it must belong to the slower group. One more Newton idea goes down in flames. Poor guy. Seems like all of his ideas are pretty good on the surface, but when Einstein comes along, they get shot down. I wonder if this is going to lead to a 'Colors are faster' bias? I hope not. Because the important thing is that we all, all MINIs, are faster and more fun than any other cars out there!
So onto a more important topic - Hey Jolyroger! U got yer car yet? Are you now non-invisible? And more importantly, has anyone else sent in more money? We're starting to run out of money for the bar tab!
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Some quick bookkeeping business:
Be it known that, attested this date, abcjh4 is formally enrolled as an Initiate in the Checkerboard Brotherhood, with all the rights, privileges and duties thereof;
Be it also known that, attested this date, mysticturner is formally enrolled as an Initiate in the Checkerboard Brotherhood, with all the rights, privileges and duties thereof;
Be it further know that, having served their Initiates with Honour, as can be seen by the talent of their compositions to this unique Tread: D-Unit, abcjh4 & mysticturner are enrolled as full Brotherhood members, with all the rights, privileges and duties thereof.
My 410+ mile roundtrip to Rhode Island from Jersey over the weekend led to no small amount of reflection and, indeed, metaphysickal ruminations. To wit, twas revealed to me on I-95 that when it comes to the fleetest, colour is not the ultimate determinant.
Tis the Checkerboard. For is that not the flag waved at the winner of each race? And do not we Checkerboards of any colour win those races, else how did these flags stick upon our mirrors, sunroofs and roofs without having sped by so fast that the flags became, through some Physicks as yet unknown, attached and indeed as One with our MINIs?
Be it known that, attested this date, abcjh4 is formally enrolled as an Initiate in the Checkerboard Brotherhood, with all the rights, privileges and duties thereof;
Be it also known that, attested this date, mysticturner is formally enrolled as an Initiate in the Checkerboard Brotherhood, with all the rights, privileges and duties thereof;
Be it further know that, having served their Initiates with Honour, as can be seen by the talent of their compositions to this unique Tread: D-Unit, abcjh4 & mysticturner are enrolled as full Brotherhood members, with all the rights, privileges and duties thereof.
My 410+ mile roundtrip to Rhode Island from Jersey over the weekend led to no small amount of reflection and, indeed, metaphysickal ruminations. To wit, twas revealed to me on I-95 that when it comes to the fleetest, colour is not the ultimate determinant.
Tis the Checkerboard. For is that not the flag waved at the winner of each race? And do not we Checkerboards of any colour win those races, else how did these flags stick upon our mirrors, sunroofs and roofs without having sped by so fast that the flags became, through some Physicks as yet unknown, attached and indeed as One with our MINIs?
If Chili Red isn't the fastest (It is ) then why do all other cars moving away at extreme velocity have a doppler 'redshift'. Any vehicle approaching relativistic speeds will naturally finally begin to overcome it's inappropriate natural color and 'redshift'. Now I have to admit this argument would also prove that purple is quiet fast as a approaching vehicle would doppler towards purple. Slower velocities would shift the 'natural' color less, staying near the center of the spectrum. So blue and yellow are a bit slower with GREEN in the center being slowest of all!
) then why do all other cars moving away at extreme velocity have a doppler 'redshift'. Any vehicle approaching relativistic speeds will naturally finally begin to overcome it's inappropriate natural color and 'redshift'. Now I have to admit this argument would also prove that purple is quiet fast as a approaching vehicle would doppler towards purple. Slower velocities would shift the 'natural' color less, staying near the center of the spectrum. So blue and yellow are a bit slower with GREEN in the center being slowest of all!
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Well, yes of course, mmatarella, tis understood that among the Checkerboards, being the fastest of MINIs, the Chili Reds are just a tad faster.
So Chili Red is the fastest of the fastest or, in nautical but nice terms in homage to our exalted Leader Jolyrogr, long may he piratic'ly reign, the fleetest of the fleetest. As that most famous Red once said: "All comrades are equal, but some are more equal than others." And this comrade in question had to have been a Chili.
So Chili Red is the fastest of the fastest or, in nautical but nice terms in homage to our exalted Leader Jolyrogr, long may he piratic'ly reign, the fleetest of the fleetest. As that most famous Red once said: "All comrades are equal, but some are more equal than others." And this comrade in question had to have been a Chili.
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From: Montgomery AL
PW Not Only Superior, but Number One
My esteemed colleague proposes to alter the fundamental equation in a vain attempt to show BRG's claimed superiority. By doing so the resultant equation simply yields additional proof that PW is in fact, number 1. One proceeds with the formal proof thusly:
(1) White = (red + blue + green + all other intermediate hues) / number of all possible colors ... modified equation
(2) W = (R + B + G + all_hues) / nr_colours ... substitue shorter variable names
(3) nr_colours = all_hues + R + B + G ... enumeration, noting R, B, and G are primary colours, not hues
(4) all_hues = nr_colours - R - B - G ... rearranging
(5) W = (R + B + G + nr_colours - R - B - G) / nr_colours ... substituting (4) in (2)
(6) W = (R-R + B-B + G-G + nr_colours) / nr_colours ... rearranging using Commutative Property
(7) W = (0 + 0 + 0 + nr_colours) / nr_colours ... simplifying
(8) W = nr_colours / nr_colours = 1 ... QED
Having repeatedly demonstrated PW's superiority and number one cardinality beyond any possible reasonable doubt, it is time to retire from further needless debate on this topic ... unless, of course, a suitable challenge be issued and/or other topics of interest be raised merit doing so.
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MCS07MGM,
I applaud the faultless logic of your theorem.
And while it would no doubt apply on Earth, we are nevertheless in the Realm of the MINIverse.
And in this verse,
not to sound terse,
logic lies in a hearse,
tho it could be worse.
And on the matter of practical experience, no matter what planet one happens to be on (depending on the day of the week) I can attest that when I motorer'd a loaner PW/B it did not go quite as fast as my CR/W on the Jersey asphalt.
So let's indeed delve into a new topic:
I will posit that automatic plus paddles tis more fun to motor around rural curves than standard shift.
I remain, your most humble & obedient Servant, Red Dragoon
I applaud the faultless logic of your theorem.
And while it would no doubt apply on Earth, we are nevertheless in the Realm of the MINIverse.
And in this verse,
not to sound terse,
logic lies in a hearse,
tho it could be worse.
And on the matter of practical experience, no matter what planet one happens to be on (depending on the day of the week) I can attest that when I motorer'd a loaner PW/B it did not go quite as fast as my CR/W on the Jersey asphalt.
So let's indeed delve into a new topic:
I will posit that automatic plus paddles tis more fun to motor around rural curves than standard shift.
I remain, your most humble & obedient Servant, Red Dragoon
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how dare you insinuate such a thing. that is blasphemy, choose your words carefully, lest you find yourself victim to a stoning/hanging/guillotine etc.
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Dear D-Unit,
Well, I have a lot of fun using the paddles to downshift around curves, before making a turn, approaching a red light, etc.
According to JolyRogr Rules of Order, stoning,hanging,guillotine, etc are prohibited as punishments for blasphemy. But flogging is permitted.
My only request is that Lady Heather does it. Better yet, Lady Heather can paddle me...
Well, I have a lot of fun using the paddles to downshift around curves, before making a turn, approaching a red light, etc.
According to JolyRogr Rules of Order, stoning,hanging,guillotine, etc are prohibited as punishments for blasphemy. But flogging is permitted.
My only request is that Lady Heather does it. Better yet, Lady Heather can paddle me...
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ooooooooo, that DOES sound good. maybe i will have to be blasphemous as well.
and, i admit, it is one of the better autoboxes out there. my post was more like sarcasm. unfortunately, things get lost in text.
and, i admit, it is one of the better autoboxes out there. my post was more like sarcasm. unfortunately, things get lost in text.
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my post was more like sarcasm. unfortunately, things get lost in text. D-Unit
"NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!1!one!!!" D-Unit
Well D-Unit, I've been scrutinizing your No message and I don't see any "s" or "a" or "r" or "c" or "m" so I think sarcasm did get lost in there, somehow, somewhere ... Perhaps a Stanley search engine should be employed?
"NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! ! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!1!one!!!" D-Unit
Well D-Unit, I've been scrutinizing your No message and I don't see any "s" or "a" or "r" or "c" or "m" so I think sarcasm did get lost in there, somehow, somewhere ... Perhaps a Stanley search engine should be employed?
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Well and Truly Spoken
RD ...
Your note well and truly expresses my thoughts on this matter ... thoroughly enjoyed the verbal jousts and bending the rules of logic beyond their limits ... hmmm ... perhaps that was the point of this thread.
Take Care My Friend,
wls
Take Care My Friend,
wls
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As everyone sits back and argues about which colour is fastest, Viola, the Pure Silver MC and her driver, motor on past the rest of the lot, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Pure Silver is the fastest colour because they're too busy motoring to waste time arguing about it. Besides, there's world domination to be plotted here...
This thread is now officially one week old; and already our exalted poobahs have allowed it to begin the dreaded death spiral. All because they allowed the discussion (and yes, I know, I was part of it) to dissipate into which color was fastest (as if we don't already know). Anyway, don't you think that we're way past due to nominate a new slate of officers so we can vote those other suckers out? Now, some of you will probably argue that we can't vote them out because they were appointed for life. Well, there's a simple solution to that! Anyway, that's my dumb question for today!
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This is one wild thread. Love the mayhem, the irrefutable arguments on both sides, the mathematic almost Vulcan-like logic. The floggings. The passion of the Colours. And the shiftiness of those who don't paddle.
One thing I learned, MINI motorers are the coolest of the cool.
Delighted to hear you've been motoring three days straight JolyRogr. And tis not too soon that ye've returned to your realm for methinks some be plotting coupe (or should that be coup?)
One thing I learned, MINI motorers are the coolest of the cool.
Delighted to hear you've been motoring three days straight JolyRogr. And tis not too soon that ye've returned to your realm for methinks some be plotting coupe (or should that be coup?)
Ok. Sounds like I'm not needed here anymore. You may all continue on and debate the merits of one color over another which was exactly my point in the first place of why there are "color support groups" on this site. So it has come full circle and my sociological experiment has come to its end it seems.
It was fun while it lasted. I'll take my wit elsewhere. You may debate on and please feel free to elect a whole new board of dictators.
Perhaps I'll start a new club thread... Mini owners who dont have the curious need to prove that they are better than other mini owners for some reason.
Motor on.
It was fun while it lasted. I'll take my wit elsewhere. You may debate on and please feel free to elect a whole new board of dictators.
Perhaps I'll start a new club thread... Mini owners who dont have the curious need to prove that they are better than other mini owners for some reason.
Motor on.
This is one wild thread. Love the mayhem, the irrefutable arguments on both sides, the mathematic almost Vulcan-like logic. The floggings. The passion of the Colours. And the shiftiness of those who don't paddle.
One thing I learned, MINI motorers are the coolest of the cool.
Delighted to hear you've been motoring three days straight JolyRogr. And tis not too soon that ye've returned to your realm for methinks some be plotting coupe (or should that be coup?)
One thing I learned, MINI motorers are the coolest of the cool.
Delighted to hear you've been motoring three days straight JolyRogr. And tis not too soon that ye've returned to your realm for methinks some be plotting coupe (or should that be coup?)