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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cmt52663
scenario 1: no LSD, ASC on

the right front tire spins when the clutch is eased out, the car moves 15-20 feet out onto the highway, but the ASC shuts down engine power waiting for traction to improve. this takes a second, and during that second a car appears from the upstream traffic at 50 mph, and is now 2 secs behind the mini, which is struggling to get 30 mph...
I have DSC but no LSD and have not encountered this problem. I'm not sure how much better (or how different) DSC is over the basic ASC.

Still, if I were ordering another R56 I would opt for the LSD; it doesn't cost much so it isn't difficult to justify, IMO.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bishamon
I have DSC but no LSD and have not encountered this problem. I'm not sure how much better (or how different) DSC is over the basic ASC.

Still, if I were ordering another R56 I would opt for the LSD; it doesn't cost much so it isn't difficult to justify, IMO.
you might be better than I at anticipating the slippery bits?

the DSC adds another layer of safety beyond the ASC, by adding a sensor that reads steering wheel position, and a yaw sensor. these two additional systems permit DSC to react to sudden changes to the attitude of the car in relation to the steering input, and to use each brake as needed to try and correct. in sum, the DSC can save yer butt if you start to spin - it is aimed at managing the attitude of the chassis as opposed to providing traction control for the powered wheels.

as mentioned earlier in this thread, traction aids can be like religion - with strong and throughtful views on both sides of the discussion...

<flashback>BTW am I the only one old enough to still chuckle at how we throw LSD around as an abbreviation? i swear the first time i saw that in a forum i pulled a massive double-take...</flashback>
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cmt52663
<flashback>BTW am I the only one old enough to still chuckle at how we throw LSD around as an abbreviation? i swear the first time i saw that in a forum i pulled a massive double-take...</flashback>
Oh no you are not alone there, I still need to read the abbreviation twice to check the context...
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by matthewsjl
Thanks for the replies. Sometimes it's not all about the 0-60 numbers. I will be driving the MCS when I get back from vacation. I'm not looking to drag people off lights but the quoted 0-60 somewhat surprised me.

I'm familiar with the sport button - the Z4 has one and it's exactly the same.... sharper throttle response and tightened steering!

Are there 30-70 times posted anywhere? That may be a somewhat better comparison.

Cheers,

John.
I haven't seen any posted times but I can tell you that last fall when I passed two semis on a two lane country highway the 60 to 120 time was pretty good
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ladisney
I haven't seen any posted times but I can tell you that last fall when I passed two semis on a two lane country highway the 60 to 120 time was pretty good
Careful...im sure you'll ruffle someone's feathers on this board if you say you went over the speedlimit.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Careful...im sure you'll ruffle someone's feathers on this board if you say you went over the speedlimit.
country highways have no speed limit...
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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don't ask don't tell...

 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cmt52663
and one more point: my JCW Cooper can spin both front tires on a wet surface with just the throttle in the bottom two gears. on a slippery surface that applies to 3rd gear as well.
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Get a 15% pulley and a tune and you'll be able to do all of that on dry pavement.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cmt52663

<flashback>BTW am I the only one old enough to still chuckle at how we throw LSD around as an abbreviation? i swear the first time i saw that in a forum i pulled a massive double-take...</flashback>
No. In fact I can remember back to the time the abbreviation only referred to limited slip differential. Kudos to both Packard and Leary.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Get a 15% pulley and a tune and you'll be able to do all of that on dry pavement.
i firmly believe this is true --the R53 is a magnificent car at 100% driving and WOT. the driving experience is awesome. the steering feel is great and the whine plus the exhaust burble is to die for --

but at non 100% WOT driving, i find the motor a bit sluggish for the daily commute; this led me to seek out the R56 because the area under the curve power (AUC) is much more useable at part throttle applications.

i also think both cars, being FWD, really benefit from limited slip devices. it really helps with front end bite on slick surfaces. simply relying on DSC to do it really bad logic.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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So my normal daily commuter (becoming more and more fairweather, hence the new car) is a Yamaha FJR 1300. It's a big, quick, "Euro-tourer". Sometimes, it power wheelies, especially with the upper trunk loaded heavy. When I drive, its an '02 GMC 4X PU. Fairly quick for a truck.

The weirdness about the MCS is that it reminds me more of my bike than my truck. It probably has more to do with the physical size than the actual power/weight - at least that's what logic suggests. I guess the bottom line is that it *feels* quick, IMO.

I'll definitely live with it a while before I contemplate motor upgrades.
 
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