R56 Drive 1, 2, 5?
I don't understand. Are you saying that you used to shift down to engine brake? This is pretty hard on the engine compared to just using the brakes, or, as you're now doing, letting it roll in neutral. Brakes are cheap; engines aren't!
As for skipping gears on shifting up, I do it all the time, generally from 3rd to 5th. Also, under some circumstances, I skip 1st--for example, stop sign that is down hill, with a slight roll.
The really nice thing about the turbo (other than the power rush
) is that it's so flexible with torque at 1500 rpm.
As for skipping gears on shifting up, I do it all the time, generally from 3rd to 5th. Also, under some circumstances, I skip 1st--for example, stop sign that is down hill, with a slight roll.
The really nice thing about the turbo (other than the power rush
) is that it's so flexible with torque at 1500 rpm.Ive been doing it for over 20 years and never hurt anything on any car. It extends the life of the brakes greatly as a matter of fact. I use downshifting whenever im coming to a stop. Most people do it, its just one more advantage of owning a manual over an auto
If you have ever had your car on a track or even a large autocross course you would know exactly why we have 6 gears. The gearing allows you to be in the powerband at almost any speed. This is gift not a problem. And besides how useful it is, isn't it just more fun to row through every gear when getting on the highway? I can understand the argument about getting better gas mileage, but it does not make a big difference for me. If I flog the car for an entire tank, I get 32 MPG. If I granny drive for a tank I may get 34 MPG. I would rather spend the extra $15 a year on gas having fun then fretting about getting the best gas mileage possible.
I want my MPG back!
If you have ever had your car on a track or even a large autocross course you would know exactly why we have 6 gears. The gearing allows you to be in the powerband at almost any speed. This is gift not a problem. And besides how useful it is, isn't it just more fun to row through every gear when getting on the highway? I can understand the argument about getting better gas mileage, but it does not make a big difference for me. If I flog the car for an entire tank, I get 32 MPG. If I granny drive for a tank I may get 34 MPG. I would rather spend the extra $15 a year on gas having fun then fretting about getting the best gas mileage possible.
I feel the same, but 28mpg isn't really bothering me too much.
If you have ever had your car on a track or even a large autocross course you would know exactly why we have 6 gears. The gearing allows you to be in the powerband at almost any speed. This is gift not a problem. And besides how useful it is, isn't it just more fun to row through every gear when getting on the highway? I can understand the argument about getting better gas mileage, but it does not make a big difference for me. If I flog the car for an entire tank, I get 32 MPG. If I granny drive for a tank I may get 34 MPG. I would rather spend the extra $15 a year on gas having fun then fretting about getting the best gas mileage possible.
Me, too!
I do...especially having had an R50 Cooper!!
Or my morning commute! Cruising in 5th, downshift for a corner into 2nd, ready to hit the gas......and there's a train crossing!!!! Very glad to have 3rd.
28??? Must be nice. I've been living with less than 25 ever since the switch to winter gas occurred. Stupid freakin' winter gas and 5'000 ft elevation.
My shift pattern is 1 2 4 6 and dont exceed 3k in normal driving. I rarely use 3 and 5
I dont downshift, but dont believe in leaving the car in neutral as you slow down. It is best left in gear. When your rpms drop to about 1000, you can shift to neutral without touching the clutch.
Clutches cost a lot more than brakes, so the less the clutch is used, the longer it will last.
I dont downshift, but dont believe in leaving the car in neutral as you slow down. It is best left in gear. When your rpms drop to about 1000, you can shift to neutral without touching the clutch.
Clutches cost a lot more than brakes, so the less the clutch is used, the longer it will last.
Quite true, but as has been pointed out before, the brakes are cheap. A brake job costs hundreds; an engine job costs thousands.
Not to say there isn't a use for engine braking, of course. If you're heading for a corner or curve, it's a part of the game. But for just coming to the average stoplight or sign...I say no. And don't forget the clutch wear. That cost is not insignificant, either.
I've been driving for 40 years, but it shouldn't be a case of one-upmanship. Or in this case, one-upwomanship. I've never had an engine or clutch problem, and darned few brake jobs, either.
Not to say there isn't a use for engine braking, of course. If you're heading for a corner or curve, it's a part of the game. But for just coming to the average stoplight or sign...I say no. And don't forget the clutch wear. That cost is not insignificant, either.
I've been driving for 40 years, but it shouldn't be a case of one-upmanship. Or in this case, one-upwomanship. I've never had an engine or clutch problem, and darned few brake jobs, either.
Last edited by daffodildeb; Feb 28, 2008 at 02:35 PM.
Back in the early 70's I used to have a SAAB Sonett. That car actually REQUIRED you to go into neutral--it freewheeled! If you were driving back then, you might remember there was a lot of trouble with the early pollution-control measures. The Sonett bypassed all of this by making freewheeling a default setting. Take your foot off the pedal and it went into neutral. Even with the day's inefficient engines, I got about 35 mpg, as I recall.
You could lock this out by moving a lever, and of course there were times I did--snow, autocrosses, etc.
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