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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Nope, you're all wrong, except for Alan. I asked my MA, who in turn asked MINI via company email. The word, direct from the German engineers, is 55 pounds.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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The sig says the car is loaded. If the weight was important, and you should not have 'loaded' it. Weight reduction is a collective thing - sum of small reductions. You already loaded.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Drop weight from the MINI.

- Lightweight battery, relocate it to the center of the car if possible.
- Lightweight seats, probably drop like 30 lbs each front seat.
- the rear seat weight nothing, maybe 10 lbs total
- Lightweight wheel, SSR Type C area good 17 x 8 or 9 if you want. 16" would be even lighter.
- probably could loose 10 to 30 lbs from the exhaust depending on if you removed the cats, the stock pipe to a alta pipe would save you 10.
- Getting the stock halogen light instead of Xenons with the motor would probably be like 10 lbs.

That is pretty much it unless you start going crazy.

Of course ordering the car stock is the frist step
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PistWalrus
I have heard reports that the sunroof adds almost 300lbs!!! This comes from the motor and is working assembly, the glass, and the added supports to strengthen the top of the car. The S without a sunroof weights in somewhere in the 2300lbs range without a driver.
Car without the sunroof but with a big hole in the roof might weigh 2300lb.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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i have also heard the 300lb number but i would bet its more around 150 or 200. there is no way it could only be 50 lbs. its not like its plastic
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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It's not like you think to yourself 'I don't really mind adding a little more weight to my car and shifting its center of balance, so I guess I'll get the sunroof.' No, you say 'I want a sunroof, suckas, and what a sunroof this is!'

Try ditching the rear seats and putting in some kind of anti-gravity generator. That might do the trick.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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i agree. people get the sunroof because they want it, and from what i hear it is a very cool sunroof, but it is also heavy. just something you gotta deal with
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by phantasms
Now that I know what parts I want to add to make it faster...
What parts can I remove to make it faster?

Are the rear seats easy to remove? What do they weigh?
Light weight battery?
Runflats vs real tires weight savings?
What else is there?
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Runflats aren't that heavy. Lightweight 16" wheels and tires will shed about 60lbs over stock 17" ones.

Rear seats don't weigh that much, and make good sound deadeners.

Sunroofs add a lot of weight.

Replace the hood and doors with carbon fiber.

Dump the rear wiper and motor.

Get rid of the glove box.

A CAI instead of the stock airbox.

Drive in pajamas and wrestling shoes.

Dump the toolkit for about 10lbs.

Milk of Magnesia for a couple of pounds.


Your best bet is in the wheels, that's rotating and unsprung weight so a couple of pounds there is worth twice as much as elsewhere.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by familiarstranger
i agree. people get the sunroof because they want it, and from what i hear it is a very cool sunroof, but it is also heavy. just something you gotta deal with
I don't know--55 pounds doesn't seem like much when you consider the entire list of options on a "loaded" car.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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If I recall correctly the JCW GP with no back seat was only about 50lbs lighter than the stock S. And they were trying to save weight.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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I have an 04 MCS and have weighed the back seats after removing them. The bottom was 8 lbs and the backs with the head rest are 14 lbs a piece. The cargo cover thing is 2lbs. I didn't weigh the center bracket and bolts that hold the backs in place so that's right about 40 lbs for all of it. I don't know how the 07 could be much less, could even be a bit more. You could go further and remove the back seat belts for more weight reduction.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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On the R53.... the sunroof adds 61 lbs. Its weight is distributed w/ 22lbs on the front axle, and 39lbs on the rear axle.

I don't have the specs on the R56... but I expect it is similar.

The quickest and easiest means to drop weight on the MINI... rear seat delete and light wheels / NRF tires..... and a low fuel tank...
 

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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
Nope, you're all wrong, except for Alan. I asked my MA, who in turn asked MINI via company email. The word, direct from the German engineers, is 55 pounds.

I saw that somewhere before I bought my car. Be hard to find it again but somewhere has the dry weights with and without I thought. Really there is no reason for it to be much more. Motors really just aren't going to weight that much. Its a heavily geared motor not a gigantic servo. The glass is heavy, but there is not reason to use anything excessively thick up top. Plus BMW doesn't exactly use thin sheet metal you aren't gaining much replacing glass with thicker than average steel. I could see slightly more than 55 lbs, but 300 is just ridiculous.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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You are all victims of the media! Stop letting your mini read those Us Weekly Magazines and teach it to be proud of its size!

hahah, sorry, aside from what everyone else said, you can always run with less than a quarter tank of gas. who needs those extra eleven gallons anyway?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Water is heavy. You could drain the radiator.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Thanks for all the great replies!

Yeah I got my car loaded because I like all the bells and whistles. If my only concern was weight there would be an Exige in my driveway instead of a Mini on the way. Loved the Exige but there was just nothing going on with the interior. So while I realize the sunroof, NAV, and motorized mirrors aren't the best bet for a racecar. I didn't buy a racecar. Just looking to make what I have, or will soon, a bit better.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Firebolt
you can always run with less than a quarter tank of gas. who needs those extra eleven gallons anyway?
Actually, that will save a quick 65lbs. More than the rear seats.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Weee misinformation is fun!

LOL@ a 300lb sunroof! It's definitely 50 or 60 pounds.

Originally Posted by ScottinBend
10 lbs maybe.........

Better rethink the whole 300hp thing tho.........not likely to ever get there with the Prince engine.
that's funny Fireballed Racing appears to be pushing 500hp
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=108124
Alta, has around 250 at the wheels on the stock turbo. 300whp is only a turbo upgrade away.
Originally Posted by Robin Casady
Water is heavy. You could drain the radiator.
haha! I'd just remove the spare tire
 
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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I drove with me and two adults over the weedend , really made it slower.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by korby
I drove with me and two adults over the weedend , really made it slower.
Yeah. An ejection seat would be a quick way to lose weight. I was going to suggest opening the passenger door and making a hard left, but the double pull makes it difficult
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by eeterp
that's funny Fireballed Racing appears to be pushing 500hp
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=108124
Alta, has around 250 at the wheels on the stock turbo. 300whp is only a turbo upgrade away.
LOL...........I am refering to a long term reliable engine. Read some of the posts from the European MINI folks and you'll see some problems with the new engine and reliablity.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
LOL...........I am refering to a long term reliable engine. Read some of the posts from the European MINI folks and you'll see some problems with the new engine and reliablity.
I'm very interested. Got a link?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Do a search on MINI2, should get some results with posts from other forums in Europe.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PistWalrus
The 2 panes of glass alone weight at least 60lbs. Plus the motor, assembly, bracing in the roof, the shades, the extra rubber water seals, the hinge assemblies....... Think about it, that has to weigh a ton.

I didn't come up with the almost 300lbs, I was told that by a Mini tech.
I heard it was 85lb. The panes of glass are not that huge.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aonach
I heard it was 85lb. The panes of glass are not that huge.
The problem with the sunroof is not the weight but more where it's placed. 100lbs under the seats isn't near as bad as on the roof, but I love my sunroof, and a new swaybar takes care of the ungainly placement.
 
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