R56 R56 automatic - 'dealers flooded with problems'???
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R56 automatic - 'dealers flooded with problems'???
I thought this deserved it's own thread:
Anybody want to weigh in on this? Is the R56 automatic a lemon-maker?
The automatic is prone to failing. I have an 07 MCS and had the transmission go into "limp home" mode twice - which keeps it in second or third gear only, with a top speed of around 30 mph. The dealer tells me they have been flooded with problems with the automatic. Mine has been an absolute nightmare. I fact I have decided to dump it at whatever price I can get - if I can get if out of the dealer's service dept - where it has been for 5 weeks!! I have tried to lemon law it, but can't quite get it there.
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With all due respect to the original poster with the problem with his automatic Mini (4 posts on 4 different threads of his total of 4 posts on this board all about the same problem), I haven't heard any mass hysteria over the auto Mini with the exception of the purists who believe everything should be manual.
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I have an R56 MCa, which has been great except for a stalling problem, which you can read about here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=113835
I started that thread but am not the person going around bashing the automatic. I am dropping the car off at the dealer on Thursday morning to check out the problem but, to be honest, even if the problem is never fixed I will still be absolutely in love with my car.
Given that few people have responded with similar problems I would have say that no hysteria exists. I would fully recommend that anyone purchase the R56 MCa if it makes sense for them to have the automatic.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=113835
I started that thread but am not the person going around bashing the automatic. I am dropping the car off at the dealer on Thursday morning to check out the problem but, to be honest, even if the problem is never fixed I will still be absolutely in love with my car.
Given that few people have responded with similar problems I would have say that no hysteria exists. I would fully recommend that anyone purchase the R56 MCa if it makes sense for them to have the automatic.
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Hmmmm....so steve5901 joined NAM in 7/07 (about 2 months ago) and he finally posted his first thread last week?!?!.... If he is so pissed with his car/service then why not write into NAM a lot sooner - like when he first joined - this way he could atleast get some suggestions/support. If his lemon is indeed legit (which is open to debate since I don't recall even reading what his multitude of problems were besides CEL) then maybe he could try getting support earlier the next time.
btw, I have 2007 MCSa - 3500 miles. CEL came on after 12 miles, software upgrade - no issue. No other major issues since, kow.
btw, I have 2007 MCSa - 3500 miles. CEL came on after 12 miles, software upgrade - no issue. No other major issues since, kow.
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I read the post by “steve5901” and he did a good job of putting some scare into me. I just ordered a MCSa and he had me worried. I am hoping that his situation is just a fluke. I saved a really long time for my new MCS and I am hoping for a worry free fun driving experience. This MCS is probably the most expensive car I have ever purchased. I want it to be the best.
Patrick
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I read the post by “steve5901” and he did a good job of putting some scare into me. I just ordered a MCSa and he had me worried. I am hoping that his situation is just a fluke. I saved a really long time for my new MCS and I am hoping for a worry free fun driving experience. This MCS is probably the most expensive car I have ever purchased. I want it to be the best.
Patrick
Patrick
1) his car was delivered at the beginning of the year
2) if there really were a lot of problems about the auto tranny then the stock problems forum would be flooded with threads about it.
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Hmmmm....so steve5901 joined NAM in 7/07 (about 2 months ago) and he finally posted his first thread last week?!?!.... If he is so pissed with his car/service then why not write into NAM a lot sooner - like when he first joined - this way he could atleast get some suggestions/support.
The reason I haven't posted sooner: I hate to admit this, but I have never used a site like this before. I am a "mature" guy so I don't know that much about these sites. I am not even sure I understand what a "sticky" is, having never seen that term before.
After reading the replys others have posted, I think I have been venting here. Maybe I am just the unlucky one who got the lemon, but I have sure been frustrated by the dealer (and to a lesser extend by Mini customer service).
Here is an example: My car has now been at the dealership for 29 days (Vista Mini, Ft Lauderdale). I called to get an update. I have left messages for the service advisor before, but he never returns calls. In fact several times I've called and his voice mail box is full and you can't even leave a message! When the operator asked if I wanted to leave a message with her, I told her that he doesn't return calls, and her response: "He doesn't answer his phone, he preferrs people to send an email".
There are 2 Mini service advisors at Vista. If you call the other one, his outgoing mesage says to leave a message, but he states that he rarely checks voice mail, and preferrs that you send him an email.
How does this help me, who is not that comfortable with computers? And how do you have a back and forth "conversation" by email only?
Sorry I got people upset, but if the tables where turned and your beloved Mini was in the shop for as long as mine has, maybe you'd understand.
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The reason I haven't posted sooner: I hate to admit this, but I have never used a site like this before. I am a "mature" guy so I don't know that much about these sites. I am not even sure I understand what a "sticky" is, having never seen that term before.
After reading the replys others have posted, I think I have been venting here. Maybe I am just the unlucky one who got the lemon, but I have sure been frustrated by the dealer (and to a lesser extend by Mini customer service).
Here is an example: My car has now been at the dealership for 29 days (Vista Mini, Ft Lauderdale). I called to get an update. I have left messages for the service advisor before, but he never returns calls. In fact several times I've called and his voice mail box is full and you can't even leave a message! When the operator asked if I wanted to leave a message with her, I told her that he doesn't return calls, and her response: "He doesn't answer his phone, he preferrs people to send an email".
There are 2 Mini service advisors at Vista. If you call the other one, his outgoing mesage says to leave a message, but he states that he rarely checks voice mail, and preferrs that you send him an email.
How does this help me, who is not that comfortable with computers? And how do you have a back and forth "conversation" by email only?
Sorry I got people upset, but if the tables where turned and your beloved Mini was in the shop for as long as mine has, maybe you'd understand.
After reading the replys others have posted, I think I have been venting here. Maybe I am just the unlucky one who got the lemon, but I have sure been frustrated by the dealer (and to a lesser extend by Mini customer service).
Here is an example: My car has now been at the dealership for 29 days (Vista Mini, Ft Lauderdale). I called to get an update. I have left messages for the service advisor before, but he never returns calls. In fact several times I've called and his voice mail box is full and you can't even leave a message! When the operator asked if I wanted to leave a message with her, I told her that he doesn't return calls, and her response: "He doesn't answer his phone, he preferrs people to send an email".
There are 2 Mini service advisors at Vista. If you call the other one, his outgoing mesage says to leave a message, but he states that he rarely checks voice mail, and preferrs that you send him an email.
How does this help me, who is not that comfortable with computers? And how do you have a back and forth "conversation" by email only?
Sorry I got people upset, but if the tables where turned and your beloved Mini was in the shop for as long as mine has, maybe you'd understand.
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Unfortunately, all dealers are NOT created equal. It sounds like you have a lemon and the dealer was trying to pass it off as a "design issue". Every car has its known issues. I've seen numerous posts about the 3-2 squeal and such. If your dealer does not resolve the issue, then find one who will or get a replacement car. There is no reason why you should have to put up with this.
I own a 2003 Ford focus that I am giving to my 16 year old when my mini comes in. I have had no problems other than the lock cylinder having to be replaced. I bought it brand new and it now has 135000 miles on it. I expect my upcoming mini to be just as reliable.
I heard numerous service horror stories about assael (here in the L.A. Area). So I decided to contact South Bay for my business. Having a dealer there for not only the sale but the service is a must.
Best of luck on your mini!
I own a 2003 Ford focus that I am giving to my 16 year old when my mini comes in. I have had no problems other than the lock cylinder having to be replaced. I bought it brand new and it now has 135000 miles on it. I expect my upcoming mini to be just as reliable.
I heard numerous service horror stories about assael (here in the L.A. Area). So I decided to contact South Bay for my business. Having a dealer there for not only the sale but the service is a must.
Best of luck on your mini!
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The MCSa uses a Japanese made Aisin transmission Asisn's arer also in cadillacs and lexuses err.. lexi?. I don't think BMW technicians are all that familiar with Asian FWD autoboxes, so that might be a big part of your problem. I went for the autobox because there were so many problems with the manual transmissions posted in this and other mini fourms. 5000km on my car, no tranny problems at all. It's the nicest automatic transmission I've ever driven.
I know telling you that your problem isn't common doesn't really help you out, just be aware that this might be the first (or nearly the frist) time your mechanic has ever looked at this problem. of you expect a quick answer from him it likely won't be the right answer.
I know telling you that your problem isn't common doesn't really help you out, just be aware that this might be the first (or nearly the frist) time your mechanic has ever looked at this problem. of you expect a quick answer from him it likely won't be the right answer.
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