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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman
I'd LOVE to dump the 17" runflats which seem to be rock hard. But, what are you guys doing with "the flat tire" problem?

Carrying one of those blowup and seal kits? There was a link to one somewhere....?
Fix a flat... compressor.... AAA card... Wife on the other end of the phone with a spare tire in the garage... smoother ride... softer hit on the wallet... Run Flats are outahere!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Tread wear/traction rating's will give you an indication of the grip possible with the tire.
See this link for the particulars.

I agree with tread wear numbers, The lower the number the stickier the tire. as long as the tread depths are close to the same.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniMoMir
Ahhhhh.... I was able to swap the Kumho Solis tires for Fuzion ZRI 91 W. I got my MINI back! It's a find blend of responsive handling and a comfortable ride. A definite improvement over the original runflats. The dealer (Crown City Tires, in Pasadena, CA) swapped them out for me after 200 miles on the Solises and only charged me for the difference between the tires. I'm so glad I didn't settle for a mistake.
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Did you keep the same 17" rims?

How much for the Fuzions?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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I would suspect with the non-RF tires you are going to want to adjust tire pressures as well. The RF #'s will be all wrong, and likely way too soft for the new rubber. Probably start with the max load rating tire pressure on the side of the tire, which could be as high as 55 psi, and work your way softer.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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are they All Season?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin Casady
I switched to Michelin Pilot Exhalto PE2 205/45 17 XL and the grip is better than the Dunlap 205/45 17 runflats. The ride and feel (turn in, etc.) is also better.
Good to hear. I have bought those tires and will pick up the Mini from the dealer and drive it straight to the tire store to have them put on. Then, the run flats get sold
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Michelin Pilot Exhalto PE2 205/45 17 XL vs Fuzion ZRI 91 W
Which is better? any other good suggestions (MiniHune?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Miniriffic
So far I like these. They're not as loud or rough as the eufori@s. What you lose a bit in cornering you make up for in ride and quiet. The biggest difference may be in getting used to the softer sidewall. Just not cornering like I used to... but I refuse to pay $250 ea. for the Perelli's. I'd be replacing them every year if I did.
Guess I don't want them--I'm not willing to give up the cornering. The ride and quiet don't particularly bother me, as long as they're not WORSE than the RFs.

Other suggestions?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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As for tire pressure, stick to the code. Just read your door jam. Higher isn't better.

My Goodyear GS=D3s (who knows . . . such bullpucky in tire naming) are way better than I am brave. Sticky beyond belief.

As for the flat tire problem: What flat tire problem. Three on road flats in 42 years of driving . . . two due to absolute foolhardiness in running ancient tires . . . one a manufacturers defect just as likely to affect a runflat as a non runflat. Plenty of flats overnight. A few flats at the office. But really, runflats create more problems than they solve. It is another way to play on your fears to take your money.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBonnet
As for the flat tire problem: What flat tire problem. Three on road flats in 42 years of driving . . . two due to absolute foolhardiness in running ancient tires . . . one a manufacturers defect just as likely to affect a runflat as a non runflat. Plenty of flats overnight. A few flats at the office. But really, runflats create more problems than they solve. It is another way to play on your fears to take your money.
Boy, wish I had your luck! My most recent one was about a year ago, but I've probably had 5 or so in 25 years. All good brand tires, too, and all on the road.

But I'm not sticking to the RFs. When these wear out...
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by glnr13
did you get V rated tires or higher? if not you're still gonna be unhappy. you won't be matching the run flats in stickiness without a V or greater
I thought the letter designations (S, V, etc.) pertained to the speed rating, not traction. My understanding is that the rating is all about the strength of construction to withstand the forces of rotation at speed.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
How about Goodrich G Force? Any experience with them?
The G-Force sport is an awesome tire..I have them on my A4. Great grip, quiet, and last a long time.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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What size/model do you have? Is the grip as good (or better) as the RFs?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
Thanks for the info, ruby...
Originally Posted by tomm9050
Michelin Pilot Exhalto PE2 205/45 17 XL vs Fuzion ZRI 91 W
Which is better? any other good suggestions (MiniHune?
I vote for the Pilot Exalto PE2.

I heard the Kumho ECSTA SPT is a good tire too.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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I should mention that I have 16" wheels (dealer swap out on my sport package). Does that change anyone's recommendation?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniMoMir
The washboard freeways and potholed streets got me to swap out my Goodyear runflats, and I DID get that smoother "softer" ride I was hoping to get. Except for a few things: There is a huge difference in grip around corners, and even in the general feel in taking off from lights, and overall less feeling of control. My mistake? I went with Kumho Solis tires, which are a standard touring all-season tire, instead of something with a bit more bite. A non-runflat performance tire would have been the best solution. I know it's a trade off, and my girlfriend (the passenger) is quite happy with what I got. You can't have it both ways, performance AND comfort, but I want some of my MINI back! We'll see how long this lasts....
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You bought all-season tires. Of course there is no grip.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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thinking of..

Thinking of selling the webspokes and rf's and buying some 17" Ultraleggras with bridgestone RE 050a's. The best tire I have ever owned.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
I should mention that I have 16" wheels (dealer swap out on my sport package). Does that change anyone's recommendation?
After a bit of research I went with the Khumo Ecsta SPT 205/50-16. Still haven't received them yet, but they appear to be a good balance between cost and performance for me.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
What size/model do you have? Is the grip as good (or better) as the RFs?
225/45/17...on my A4. haven't driven a car with runflats (MINI on order) but yes, a dedicated summer tire will be much better than an all season tire (in a warm climate). Runflats are heavy and designed to run flat, performance summer tires are designed to grip (put simplistically).
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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i just changed my Dunlop runflats for 215/45ZR-17 Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season XL's. They ride a lot rougher but are more surefooted and have all but eliminated my torque steer. I am willing to give up the comfort for the stability and all season attributes.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
After a bit of research I went with the Khumo Ecsta SPT 205/50-16. Still haven't received them yet, but they appear to be a good balance between cost and performance for me.
I love my Kumho SPTs (in 215/45R17) - thrashed them hard at the Dragon last weekend and they held up well and are very predictable/controllable at the limit... ask the guys behind me...
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Not to hijack, but are the gendarmes still cracking down at the Dragon?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
Not to hijack, but are the gendarmes still cracking down at the Dragon?
I see it mentioned a lot, but what is the Dragon?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcs22004
You bought all-season tires. Of course there is no grip.
I have a set of Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S (all season) 205/55-16 on Rota RB 16x7. Took them out on some well known (to me) twisties this morning. They hold on quite well. The difference between them and a set of Michelin Pilot Exhalto PE2 205/45-17 on CenterLine RPM 17x7 is subtle. Noticeable, but subtle.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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People keep saying good things about Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (summer). I may try them when I wear out the Michelin PE2s, but with two sets of wheels, it may take awhile. According to Tire Rack tests, the F1s out perform the PE2s, but not by a huge amount.
 
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