saab is right there next to suzuki.

 

From the JD Powers report:
As previosly noted, the survey conducted was of model year 2003 vehicles.

 

MINI and Kia should not be allowed to be mentioned in the same sentence together. I thought that was a cardinal rule that everyone followed

 

And you just went ahead and did it anyway...

 

MINI, Kia, MINI, Kia, MINI, Kia, MINI, and Kia.

 

I was wondering if anybody else would notice that.

 

Well, considering that my 05 S may have to have its power steering rack replaced at 13,700 miles, I'm not surprised.

I've also heard that the 07s will have all electric power steering. Maybe too many warranty replacements of the old system, and BMW got fed up??? JB

 

but 230 defects over 100 cars that are three years old is 0.83 defects per car per year. Not really a big deal... I wonder how many of the defects were rattling rear hatches?

Matt

 

Well, in my opinion, that report says NOTHING!!

We have a lot of similar tests and reports over here in germany, and e.g. there a report every year by "ADAC" telling how many cars had problems that made them stop working, and I think the Mini is one of the top cars in the "small cars" range...and the Porsche, which is just a bit ahead in that report here, is always the best one over here...so, maybe this is really, becaue some people report a lot of problems, and some people just drive away, and don't mention any small problem to the dealer...

 

it sure isn't an absolute study on the subject. We called things like this "guides for the eye" to give you an idea about how things compare and are changing over time, roughly....

Matt