One of the boxster posts was about self limiting the speed of the car. IMHO, this is the most accurate statement of real world driving. My driving philosophy is that the other guy can't hurt me on the road if he's in my rear view mirror . . so I pass everyone I can and then limit my speed to about 70 on 55mph roads. If the guy I passed gets pissed and wants to repass me an do 100 in his stock corolla, then he'll beat me and will probably boast to his friends how he dusted a JCW. But not true . . . he is only a more dangerous/insane driver. Extrapolate to a Boxster/Mini showdown. For me, the bottom line is maximize your fun, drive to live another day and DON'T drive faster than your brakes (especially through radar traps ).

 

I agree with that .

However, I noticed that they showed our cars at under 2300 lbs........

 

WHY ARE USED BOXSTERS SO CHEAP?

seriously, there is a dealership near me with a few dozen on the lot, and they all range from $14k-26k. and these are like 2001-2004 models. Why do they drop in value so much? (most Porsches retain great resale value)

 

I did a search on the site for MINI, there were tales of MCSs giving the boxter S a hard time, and one thread on Nuzzo motorsports, that car could easily be under 2300; they can be car savy without knowing a lot about the MINI in particular.

 

"Are those minis really that fast?"
yes

"I had to restrain myself from dialing up Farnbacher-Loles and ordering a 3.8 S transplant during the remainder of my drive to work."
awww - is someone throwing a tantrum?

"the JCW Mini is NOT as fast as the Boxster, no way."
uh - care to find out?

"My MINI research revealed that many are hot-rodded with chips and other things to wring even more HP from that little 1600cc engine.
...other things being salsa, maybe?

one of the posters went as low as posting a picture of futurequeenofnebraska, and captioned it with "It sure looks like she knows what she's doing behind the wheel"...probably mocking the pink.
Those guys are just really lame.

 

Seems like our little secret is out. The MCS (and especially a JCW or Modded version) can "run with the Porkers".

 

FWIW, that was Stoopidgirl and her car, not futurequeenofnebraska

 

They are most likely the base model, not the S and hence their starting price was more like $30K or whatever to begin with.

Second, new generation came out in 05 giving MUCH more power to the S ... different car ... dont be surprised when the same thing happens to the first gen MINIs either

 

Amazing, I posted this to let people see a P-car owner PRAISING the MCS and some people can't resist bashing the P-car owners anyway

I also posted to to show people that many ppl dont understand MINIs "in the real world". Still viewed as Clown Cars although Dr. O has stepped up to the plate

If you Read Matt Alleys response, he got it right as Blue Agave has mentioned here. In the twisties, your not going to lose anyone. In the straights ...

"there is no substitute for cubic inches"
Anon.

BTW, Gundos car was a 2000, old generation. For those who might be wanting to take on the current gen, before you do, see the R&T slalom tests ... guess which car has the record (beating out an Enzo) and guess which car is about 7 mph slower (just to put things into perspective).

 

Oops! Was the pink - either way, it was a pretty low blow.

sorry STOOPIDGIRL!

 

but it looks like they have thier share of problems too. Saw a couple threads on tops not going down, and on long delivery time pains... Sound familiar?

Matt

 

Oh they have lots of problems in the older versions, just like probably the older first gen MINIs. Big one is 1999 blown engines

Its also kind of funny how people buying MINIs think they are so unique because you are basically forced to order from the factory... Wouldn't you think if your buying a $50K plus car you must might do the same thing

 

Also, the early year Boxsters had less HP and technical refinement than the later years. If I remember correctly, almost every year the HP raised in both the Boxster and Boxster S. From under 200 (2000) to over ~280 (Boxster S) in 2006. Additionally the early years had rear seal pbs and some growing pains as all new cars do, which may account for the lower resale.

As chows4us indicates, the 2005 on Boxster S is a different car than the 1999-2004 years. I almost bought (at the dealer and ready to sign) a 2005 and everything about the 2005 is noticably better in terms of ride, engine pull (the increased HP helped ), handling, etc. than previous years. For me, the 2005 Boxster S felt more solid and viseral than say driving than a S2000, which is also a good car.

Is a Boxster better than an MCS? No, but they are different types of cars.

 

PPBB is a great forum for the P cars. I have been there reading about the new Cayman and how they feel about it.

There are people there that praise and love the MINI. Several have both! not that suprising, they are both fun and fast!

I just thought it was a funny post especially when they added StoopidGirl and her car quoting "Might be a great driver!"

I always ignore the bashing and appreciate those who love cars and have fun with them

 

autocentrism is a good way to put it. But it's not just cars... many people can't grasp the concept that along with free will and the privelage of choice, someone's passionate desire for something you can't personally grasp doesn't make it a poorer choice than yours by default... just different. As long as the person made the choice intelligently, even if it's simply a 'because I wanted THAT." type of thing, it's both rational and appropriate for them. Will they regret it later? Maybe. Did they make a bonhead decision based on bad intel? Possibly. The only 'wrong' choice is the fool that impulse buys to show off and doesn't know what they're doing....

...that said, Boxster... ick....

 

Good point. It goes way beyond models. Just take a look at the wheels threads. People are always posting their new wheels, maybe in huge sizes, sometimes looking for opinions, other times for validation.

Some will like, some will hate. Some will be apathetic.

To each their own. Its diversification that makes life interesting. If everyone liked the same thing, life would be

 

Kind of the double-edged sword about hobbies like cars, music taste, anything you have passion for and seek out those like minded: you're STILL going to find tons of diversity even within the subset you've gathered to, like the Mini community for example, or any other specific selection set. You'll still have the mod folks the stock folks, the tricked out graphics, the clown cars, the sound folks, the track folks, etc. and I'm sure many are pretty diverse in their ideas of what makes an ideal MC... so you have to appreciate the diversity even within the club. But beyond that, some joker in a P-car mocking a Mini just makes me smile. Each have their place, and in short order, none of us will be around to drive whatEVER car is our passion... so we have to make the most of enjoying what we enjoy driving, and waste no time or karma on the haters. That's what I say!

 

Factory ordered cars are really much more common than it might appear at first glance. Enthusiasts (and I'll lump MINI owners, Porsche owners and many other specialty car folk together here) have used the factory order system for years, with domestic as well as foreign manufactures. Why do you think that the "build sheet" is so important for the Mopar Hemi, Big-block 'Vette, Shelby 'stang crowd? While subject to the occasional monstrosity of poor color choice or over/under power for the chassis, the factory order allows for the creation of a more unique car than just buying off the lot. Case in point is BMW, try, just try to find a late model bimmer without a sunroof. Can't be done without a special order. Dealers shun them as un-sellable, and commonly knock several thousand dollars off of used value because of such perception that all luxury cars must have a sunroof.

 

Chows makes a statement that has something in it for everyone (truth and a talking emoticon ). If I may put a finer point on it, we're really talking about FUN, whether posting on owner's sites, laying it down on the asphalt, admiring our wheels or yes, even feeling superior. It's just our own way of being in drag

 

Interesting review on new Boxster (non-S) http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/con...6801224870976/

This part is "cute"

"To put it bluntly, the Boxster’s a ******* with wheels. ... Since I’m being a complete pig, the red Boxster produces more cargasms per mile than any other whip in existence."

You'll need to read it to fill in the blanks

 

Here's the link to the page:
http://www.ppbb.com/scgi-bin/boards/...l?read=1111585

 

I am a Boxster owner, and I've got my JCW Mini S on order. I am planning on keeping both cars.

Why are Box's so cheap? As was mentioned, the earlier models had some issues. The Rear Main Seal was a problem, also intermediate shaft failure, plus some little electrical graemlins like Airbag Warning lights (sound familiar??) tops not going down (sensor issues), plus it is the base model Pooch.

That being said, the car is a BLAST to drive. I have a 98, and I love taking up in the mountains, going topless, and driving the twisties. And quite frankly, I get a LOT of compliments on the car.

I think both are nice cars, which is why I have one of each.

And remember, the old cactus joke first evolved around Bimmer drivers, not Pooch drivers.

 

incredible ignorance. hahha

 

Post my Video over there, Boxster S AND 911 get passed by me ....see below

 

Just remember we're not Bimmer drivers!