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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Hey really good write up. What an adventure. I like to take the back way too but this story just shows that things can happen. I have been on Wild Rose, but not late at night. It is quite pretty and so is the Pannamint area. It can be a little tricky out there finding your way in the dark though. The same thing happened to me with snow in December trying to get over the pass near Lake Isabella and I took 155. It is a fantastic back road. Glad to hear that Mini owners helped you out and you were able to enjoy the drive for the most part. Took pictures too, can't beat that. New wheels look good.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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wow...thats awesome...and kinda :/ at the same time...i'm glad you decided to write it all up though!!

Now you have to ask yourself, Would you rather have just made it back with no flat or getting lost or any of that...or have this great story to tell people?

I would choose the story part...woohoo!! :P

Glad you are back home safe and everything worked out!!
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Glad I was able to help you out Avery. It can be a very unforgiving place to be stuck in. Sounds like quite a story before I met up w/ you. Its good you kept your cool and made it thru, I swear I hear about someone dying every year that has a mishap, and then tries to walk out of that area. (usually in the summer when its alot hotter.) I know those roads pretty good, and I'm not sure I would travel them at night.

Ps. Nice wheels

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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Great story Avery! I'm glad you made it through and some fellow motorers were able to help out.

My favorite part of your story was this:

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...And everytime I saw a roadkill, my hopes got up because I hoped the car that ran the poor bunny over was just up ahead...around the corner...
I never thought of roadkill that way.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Wow Avery, happy endings are always the best

It is certainly heartwarming to know there are so many in the MINI community who are willing to help, especially Nik & MiniClo. Unlike those terds who wanted to jam you on the replacement wheel and tires.

Great story, when can expect the sequel? (maybe there's a MINI series in the future).

BTW your new wheels look great
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Funny how no one's said anything about the runflats yet! I was waiting to see if someone would pop up to thank the runflats. I think we all dislike runflats (hell, I don't even have a MINI and I don't like them! lol) but I do think the true winner's and savior in this story were the runflat tires. Without them...he would have been stranded in Death Valley....on the side of a road! But alas, the runflats let him go quite far to get to a safer place.

-Cody
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Averywo
Finally, on my way home, I spot an interesting sign. It reads: REALLY GOOD FRESH JERKY!



I just had to try it out, I mean if the big sign says its really good, it MUST be really good! I get there and its a litte shack adorned with stickers of all kinds, and the place reads: FRESH JERKY REALLY GOOD! I mean it's gotta be really good. The sign told me it was really good, even the building says it's really good! I get inside and try some samples... IT WAS REALLY REALLY GOOD! The stuff is called "Gus' Really Good Fresh Beef Jerky" and it comes in many varieties. I picked up a 3 pack for $20 bucks and ate it over the past 3 weeks. It was really good. You can even order it online: http://www.freshjerky.com/
I must agree with you about the jerkey. I was in the Yosemite/Sequoia/Death Valley area this summer to climb, and like you I was drawn to Gus's store. The stuff is amazing and makes a trip through the desert a lot more bearable. If you ever find yourself on this road (I don't know the number) it's definitely worth stopping for some jerkey. (the hot stuff is the best ) Excellent story.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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GPS. Spare. Word(s).

I had both on the AMVIV trip. My biggest fear was being busted by johnny law trying to keep up with the BAMmer crowd.
Good writeup - glad you made it out alive!
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Good story! Glad it all worked out for you. Really shows how tight this community is. That makes motoring that much more fun!
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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That was intense reading Avery!
I can't imagine living it.
Glad you made it home safe and sound.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Avery, That was a great write up. Glad the Mini community came to assist you in your hour of need.Do you think any other car club pulls together like Mini people? It's not just a car, it's a life style filled with wonderful people.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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Great write up! I would have been seriously bumming had I been lost in the desert like that - WITH a flat tire. Good thing for Tom L who escorted you out.
By the way Tom L was there to take astronomical photos, not astrological... Photos of stars or planets, yes. Signs no. Anyway, I knew what you meant. Just busting your chops ;-)
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Wonderful story!!

I have been lucky never to have had such an ordeal with a car - only once with a bicycle. I was participating in a marathon bike ride of 300 miles of continuous riding in the hills of MD and PA (stupidly, without a spare tire) and got a long unrepairable gash in my rear tire on a screaming downhill in a very remote valley in PA (horse canyon, the break in the "double tunnel" on the PA Tpke). This was more than 10 years ago before cell phones were as pervasive - and after trying several times to borrow people's phones to call my wife (they all refused even when I showed them a calling card) I walked out of the valley to the nearest pay phone 15 miles away - and then waited four or five hours for my wife to collect me. At the time I was panicked about being in the middle of nowhere all alone with nothing but my feet - but looking back it was a high point of adventure in my otherwise routine life.

From all of us who were following your story while it happened, we are glad you are well and had the good fortune to have been supported by the great NAM community to a safe and successful outcome !!

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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I'm just curious i f this would have been resolved considerably sooner if you had a spare in back.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by polizei
Funny how no one's said anything about the runflats yet! I was waiting to see if someone would pop up to thank the runflats. I think we all dislike runflats (hell, I don't even have a MINI and I don't like them! lol) but I do think the true winner's and savior in this story were the runflat tires. Without them...he would have been stranded in Death Valley....on the side of a road! But alas, the runflats let him go quite far to get to a safer place.

-Cody
I have to agree with polizei. Many of us badmouth the S-lites and runflats, but they really came through in this case. If you had been driving on non-runflats and bent the rim and didn't have a spare, you could still be out there in the desert. That can of fix a flat won't solve the bent rim problem. The S-lites and runflats saved me this winter when I hit a low island covered by snow and bent two rims. One rim was so badly damaged that the inner rim of the wheel was torn away from the rim for about 7 inches around the wheel. It was dark and I couldn't see this damage. I managed to limp the 3 miles home where I discovered the extent of the damage. Still this didn't keep me from changing to something lighter and non-runflats, but you have to admit Avery's story should make you think twice about ditching the S-lites.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Avery,

Glad to see everything came out ok. Sorry I couldn't help you out, as we were in the middle of nowhere ourselves at the time you called.

We were able to get over the pass on 155, very twistie drive. You need to drive it if you get the chance.

Let me know, and I will go with you.

Nice rims.

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Wow...what a great adventure and write up I had to print it up and used 3 trips to the john for some entertaining read This has got to be the longest recorded single post on NAM...love it

Thanks for the Jerky link too...will have to try that out...
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by polizei
Funny how no one's said anything about the runflats yet! I was waiting to see if someone would pop up to thank the runflats. I think we all dislike runflats (hell, I don't even have a MINI and I don't like them! lol) but I do think the true winner's and savior in this story were the runflat tires. Without them...he would have been stranded in Death Valley....on the side of a road! But alas, the runflats let him go quite far to get to a safer place.
DUDE ... you are absolulely correct although a real spare tire would have saved, probably, the entire experience. Many, Many people just refuse to believe anything like this will happen to them ... after all, they got their goop, they got their cell phones, etc. He was SAVED by the RFs.

This happened to me outside of Searchlight, NV. No amount of goop is going to fix a true blowout. I'm not sure if a RF would have shreaded like that and, in fact, a RF might not have.

In any case, there are many places without cell service ... you pay your money and take your chances. I'll take my chances with a spare AND goop

 
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
AWESOME story

But one question .... Why would you be almost dead if you didn't have a MINI? I dont get the title ...
Well if I didn't have the runflats, I probably wouldn't have been able to make it out to the little town. And I wasn't about to head out in the middle of the night in pitch black with no light to attempt to change my tire if I had a spare :P Although I suppose being dead would be a bit of an exaggeration, I definately woulda been there for an additional week if I didn't have a MINI though.

Originally Posted by eVal
Fantastic story - I was so frustrated for you reading about the lame Geico and Roadside towing issues (I hope you write to Mini USA about that, its crazy they would not take your the extra 30 miles in the right direction on your dime even). You know, I think you can even get reimbursed some money via the "trip interuption" policy, I think there is info in the warranty manual.

Glad you are okay and it great to hear that the community is full of such nice people even in the most remote places
Ooo i'll definately have to take a look at that trip interruption thing :D

Originally Posted by hong
Have to say I'm surprised you're so poorly informed and prepared prior to the solo drive across the desert via backroads in the darkness. But hey I do enjoy reading your adventure from the comfort of my room, thanks for sharing quite an experience. Next time I may keep a list of NAM road assistance contact.
To be honest, I didn't realize it was going to be that rough, nor did I expect to get that lost :P The real reason why I was out there was I was trying to get back home so I could go to work on monday on time...we all know how that turned out.

Originally Posted by blockh102
Wow, what a story! I am glad that you are ok. That makes me want to carry a spare, a BIG took kit and a floor jack for anything that may go wrong.

Motor On!
I just went to Kragens last week and picked up a bunch of road flares, a flat tire repair kit, and lug nut remover, fire extinguisher and a boot organizer. Now ive got my little emergency kit in the boot at all times. Lesson learned eh? I'm also keeping my old runflat (the one that isn't all messed up) as a spare when I go on long road trips.

Originally Posted by willum
Avery,
WOW, what an adventure
I didn't mean to send you off into the night to have THAT happen But I'm glad you made it back home and those are some SWEET wheels. Howard and I went thru Wildrose Canyon during the day and it was tough negotiating the pot holes, wet road, rocks....can't imagine what it was like at night 'n pitch black Made for a great read.....not sure I would have remained as calm as you. We can all learn from your from your story .... Keep extra food/water/blankets/flashlight/spares...and try not to travel alone. You have to love our MINI community.....I doubt there are many other car owners out there that would have responded in a similar fashion.
Hope to see you soon.......
Haha, it's ok, im still alive right? You coulda warned me more about that wildrose area though :P

Originally Posted by dickdavid
My favorite part of your story was this:



I never thought of roadkill that way.
It's the most optimism I could make out of roadkill.

Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
GPS. Spare. Word(s).

I had both on the AMVIV trip. My biggest fear was being busted by johnny law trying to keep up with the BAMmer crowd.
Good writeup - glad you made it out alive!
Oh yes, my next investment is definately going to be a GPS.

Originally Posted by Duck360198
I'm just curious i f this would have been resolved considerably sooner if you had a spare in back.
Runflats don't come with spares unfortunately.

Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Wow...what a great adventure and write up I had to print it up and used 3 trips to the john for some entertaining read This has got to be the longest recorded single post on NAM...love it

Thanks for the Jerky link too...will have to try that out...
Lol, theres probably some details I left out too...didn't want it to be THAT long
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Glad to hear you are home safe and have a set wheels, and didnt get stuck paying big bucks to get out of Death Valley.

As I read, and heard of a couple times lately, "What goes around, comes around." Good Job Nik!

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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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I just went to Kragens last week and picked up a bunch of road flares, a flat tire repair kit, and lug nut remover, fire extinguisher and a boot organizer. Now ive got my little emergency kit in the boot at all times. Lesson learned eh? I'm also keeping my old runflat (the one that isn't all messed up) as a spare when I go on long road trips.
I see you've learned a lesson. You've also taught some others a lesson too.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Coopers equipped with 16" rims come with Goodyear runflats from factory and still get a spare.

The Cooper S, due to the center mounted exhaust and rear battery, does not come with a factory mounted spare.

Just to clarify.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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I couldn't agree more with both of you. The real "heros" in the story are the RF tires. Personally, I think RF tires get a lot of bad rap in NAM and some of it I think it is pretty undeserved too. I am very happy with my factory supplied 16" Dunlop SP5000 RF tires. Great ride, great handling and peace of mind in case of a "real" flat.

More new cars are being equipped with the "evil" runflats. A cell phone and goop is not going to cut it if you are stuck in the middle of nowhere without reception and a shredded blown to pieces tire.



Originally Posted by chows4us
DUDE ... you are absolulely correct although a real spare tire would have saved, probably, the entire experience. Many, Many people just refuse to believe anything like this will happen to them ... after all, they got their goop, they got their cell phones, etc. He was SAVED by the RFs.

This happened to me outside of Searchlight, NV. No amount of goop is going to fix a true blowout. I'm not sure if a RF would have shreaded like that and, in fact, a RF might not have.

In any case, there are many places without cell service ... you pay your money and take your chances. I'll take my chances with a spare AND goop

 
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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I couldn't agree more with both of you. The real "heros" in the story are the RF tires. Personally, I think RF tires get a lot of bad rap in NAM and some of it I think it is pretty undeserved too. I am very happy with my factory supplied 16" Dunlop SP5000 RF tires. Great ride, great handling and peace of mind in case of a "real" flat.

More new cars are being equipped with the "evil" runflats. A cell phone and goop is not going to cut it if you are stuck in the middle of nowhere without reception and a shredded blown to pieces tire.
I totally agree, C4...this is why I am getting my third set of the Dunlop SP5000 16s installed tomorrow! I'm on my roadtrip now and the set I am replacing more than 30,000+ miles on them! I've been VERY pleased with them.
 
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