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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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"I know the SRT-4 is fast, but so is a turd with a rocket strapped to it!"
BAHAHAHAHAHA That just made my week! lolololol
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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*deep breath* Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehehehehehe. Rock on. I can't really bash neons to much or my g/f will have my head but still, gotta love it when some damn fool finally gets caught being a damn fool.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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Where abouts in NJ was this?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BriNYU
BAHAHAHAHAHA That just made my week! lolololol
Yeah, you know, I'm just fed up with hype around cars that are built like crap and/or look like crap, but some people think they're cool because some US car company threw a powerful engine it. Such as the GTO. I apologize if anyone on here likes the styling of the GTO, but to me it looks like a Bonneville with a sport package. Like something my grandpa might drive. But by God, it's got a V8 in it so it's cool ...or not...And don't get me started on the Cavalier...err...Cobalt SS.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Elkerster
Where abouts in NJ was this?
If you're familiar with NJ...Holmdel, right off exit 114 on the GSP. We were at a light on Route 35, not the best place to be speeding, especially if you're not from the area.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Virginia cops also like to set at the overpasses and use their radar guns intermittently. The folks that hit their brake lights have the radar detectors. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ElonCooper
Virginia cops also like to set at the overpasses and use their radar guns intermittently. The folks that hit their brake lights have the radar detectors. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
...I use other people's brakelights as a 'pre-radar detector' thing. Works particularly well at night. If i'm driving on a highway (like the Garden State Parkway), I watch for the cars ahead of me slamming on their brakelights all of sudden. Always a 'money' indicator of a cop car lurking in the shadows.
I also try to wait for a couple of other cars to speed past me before I start picking up my speed a little, with the hope that they'd get caught before I was if there was a patrol somewhere ahead.

It also helps that the headlights of a Crown Victoria Interceptor are very recognizable in their configuration. That and the bulge from the spotlight above the drivers side mirror. Although lately I've seen different cars being used, most notably a MINIVAN as an unmarked patrolcar in Chicago.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Oh hey, this might be a good thread to offer our own little TIP AND TRICKS on how to avoid getting stopped for speeding (minus the obivous, "dont speed" tip, ).
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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I don't understand how this thread is acceptable. If we discuss a purely street racing thread its removed. How is this different? Because the MINI driver wasn't ticketed?

Isn't revving your engine and taking off fast called "Show of speed" and can be subject to a ticket and fine as well in many staes?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dansmini
Yeah, you know, I'm just fed up with hype around cars that are built like crap and/or look like crap, but some people think they're cool because some US car company threw a powerful engine it. Such as the GTO. I apologize if anyone on here likes the styling of the GTO, but to me it looks like a Bonneville with a sport package. Like something my grandpa might drive. But by God, it's got a V8 in it so it's cool ...or not...
Dansmini,

Actually, you're wrong about the GTO, IMO. It was developed from the Holden Monaro in Australia. It's a very well built car, and ridiculously fast. As for the styling... personally, I like it. It's subtle. There's something to be said for an understated car that looks like any other coupe out there, yet packs 400 HP under the hood! Can you say "factory sleeper"?

The new GTO is anything but a "Bonneville with sport package". Don't even compare it to most other domestic cars... because it's really not. It's Australian.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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The thread teaches a lesson .... DON'T BE A FOOL
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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kakaka ...



A lesson to learn for the guy
A bogey to put on for the cop

 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BriNYU
I also try to wait for a couple of other cars to speed past me before I start picking up my speed a little, with the hope that they'd get caught before I was if there was a patrol somewhere ahead.
Ahhh, gotta love the "RABBIT"

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Dansmini,

Actually, you're wrong about the GTO, IMO. It was developed from the Holden Monaro in Australia. It's a very well built car, and ridiculously fast. As for the styling... personally, I like it. It's subtle. There's something to be said for an understated car that looks like any other coupe out there, yet packs 400 HP under the hood! Can you say "factory sleeper"?

The new GTO is anything but a "Bonneville with sport package". Don't even compare it to most other domestic cars... because it's really not. It's Australian.
To me, it looks like a slightly sportier Bonneville. Sorry. I can't comment on how it is built, but if the whole "sleeper" thing works for you, that's cool. I'm not trying to start a fight here. But if I'm spending over 30 grand on a sporty car, I want it to look like a sporty car. That's just me. And, the Holden version sold in Australia looks WAY better than what we ended up with over here, as usual. They always ruin the cool concept or foreign versions of vehicles when they release them here. For example, here is the Holden Australian version of our Pontiac!http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...4&vehicleid=12
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mielnicki
Ahhh, gotta love the "RABBIT"
That's what I hear a lot of the women saying around here, but I don't think they are talking about car stuff.......
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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i was also picked on by a neon... but this dude got a piece of it.
i was at a light and a yellow srt-4 pulls up and starts reving...
so i pulled down my windows and he goes wanna run to the next light?
to what i reply, ok but let roll about 5 mph then go....
the overconfident neon drive was like ok...
(as wel all know a turbo has a nice lag at low RPMs together with someone who does know how to drive a turbo car it can work to your advantage)
so we get moving when the light got green, and after 3 beeps we hit it...
well i double clucht a little to get a little torque going while he just stepped on it

hehe idiot... by the time he rev up to boost i was about 3 cars ahead! and i kept that till the next light..

i wish you guys could of seen the pozzled/idiotic look on his face when he told me wow those little things are fast....

hehehe, little that he knows that i only got him b/c he does not know how to drive...

on a real race with a good drive i would have been smoked...

 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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The Pontiac GTO we get here is built in the same exact assembly line as the Holden Monaro in the land down under. The only differences are the badges. The car is based on an Opel Omega platform and the GTO if anything has more Germanic genes than Gringo ones, with the exception of the V8 engine which is the only US made component in that car.

Have you driven it? Have you sit inside one? Pretty handsome car and the interior beats anything GM makes in Northamerica including Cadillacs.

The GTO is the "sleeper" 4 seater Corvette. You can get a 400HP RWD 6-speed manual GTO for well under $30K or about the same as a fully decked out MCS JCW.

Not bad at all.


Originally Posted by dansmini
To me, it looks like a slightly sportier Bonneville. Sorry. I can't comment on how it is built, but if the whole "sleeper" thing works for you, that's cool. I'm not trying to start a fight here. But if I'm spending over 30 grand on a sporty car, I want it to look like a sporty car. That's just me. And, the Holden version sold in Australia looks WAY better than what we ended up with over here, as usual. They always ruin the cool concept or foreign versions of vehicles when they release them here. For example, here is the Holden Australian version of our Pontiac!http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...4&vehicleid=12
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by C4
The Pontiac GTO we get here is built in the same exact assembly line as the Holden Monaro in the land down under. The only differences are the badges. The car is based on an Opel Omega platform and the GTO if anything has more Germanic genes than Gringo ones, with the exception of the V8 engine which is the only US made component in that car.

Have you driven it? Have you sit inside one? Pretty handsome car and the interior beats anything GM makes in Northamerica including Cadillacs.

The GTO is the "sleeper" 4 seater Corvette. You can get a 400HP RWD 6-speed manual GTO for well under $30K or about the same as a fully decked out MCS JCW.

Not bad at all.
After all the discounts and with no options it may be well under 30k, but the list starts at 32,295. Also, the Holden's front end looks miles better, IMO. Not at all identical to our version. Before it was Poniacified. Again, I'm not trying to fight here. I have been up close to the GTO, I did not sit in it, but I looked in it and checked all around one. I'm not saying it is a slow piece of crap. The build quality, for all I know, is top notch. The engine seems great. I'm just saying that for my tastes, the exterior styling just doesn't "do" anything for me.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BriNYU
...I use other people's brakelights as a 'pre-radar detector' thing. ....I also try to wait for a couple of other cars to speed past me before I start picking up my speed a little, with the hope that they'd get caught before I was if there was a patrol somewhere ahead.
I do this A LOT. Roads are usually busy around DC so you can easily find "bear bait" (credit for this term goes to a guy named Troy I knew in PA).

It also helps that the headlights of a Crown Victoria Interceptor are very recognizable in their configuration. That and the bulge from the spotlight above the drivers side mirror. Although lately I've seen different cars being used, most notably a MINIVAN as an unmarked patrolcar in Chicago.
LOL. My wife will often slow down for the broken down Oldsmobile on the shoulder and I'll say "don't worry, that's not a cop." Then, she'll be puzzled when I spot a real cruiser from way, way off.

Strange rectangular shapes near the roofline or inside the rear window=cop
Abundance of aerial antennas=cop
Spotlight=cop or someone who bought an old cop car at auction.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Well, the GTO has been a sales flop mainly because of its looks. The car resembles too much the old Grand AM/Bonneville and the classic GTO "Purists" totally thrashed the car as not being "Faithful" to the squred off, agreesive lines of the late 1960's original.


The GTO is one of the best kept secrets in the market right now, but too much gas $$$ to fed that thristy 5.7L V8 with 400 horses and all.

At least GM did something about bringing fairly quickly up to market a decent RWD performance coupe, but oo bad they did so late in the game and not well taught out.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Dansmini,

Actually, you're wrong about the GTO, IMO. It was developed from the Holden Monaro in Australia. It's a very well built car, and ridiculously fast.
Unfortunately, having the Pontiac badge on the hood would make me run away.

A coworker bought a used GTO, last year's model. I was mildly impressed with the car; far more impressive than any other GM product I've seen. She paid $28k or so for the car, used. I didn't have the heart to tell her dealers were blowing out last year's model, brand new on the lot, for less than what she paid used. Ouch.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Revwillie
Spotlight=cop or someone who bought an old cop car at auction.
Not trying to go off topic here but..

I have noticed an abundance of these things lately. Are the local law enforncement replacing the entire car fleet? I swear I see tons of these around lately.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dansmini
Yeah, you know, I'm just fed up with hype around cars that are built like crap and/or look like crap, but some people think they're cool because some US car company threw a powerful engine it. Such as the GTO. I apologize if anyone on here likes the styling of the GTO, but to me it looks like a Bonneville with a sport package. Like something my grandpa might drive. But by God, it's got a V8 in it so it's cool ...or not...And don't get me started on the Cavalier...err...Cobalt SS.
Your comment about the V-8 being cool is right on. Made me think how cool having a V-8 in the MINI would be. A little V-8 with abut 200HP would sound and run great. I'd love it.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mdsbrain
Not trying to go off topic here but..

I have noticed an abundance of these things lately. Are the local law enforncement replacing the entire car fleet? I swear I see tons of these around lately.
Yep, I've seen quite a few of them around lately as well. They're just simply retired patrol cars.

I saw a story on one of the news stations regarding these units. They're supposed to be huge bargains, especially considering that your're getting a ride with a powerful engine (corvette, if i remember it right).

The other big advantage to having one of these units is that they're VERY easy and relatively cheap to maintain. They were designed for quick repairs, and as such, many of the engine parts can be quickly removed and replaced rather quickly.

...and the fun you can have with that spotlight, dont get me started...
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dansmini
Hey, I know the SRT-4 is fast, but so is a turd with a rocket strapped to it!

you mean there's a difference between the two?
no offense to any SRT-4 owners out there, but a riced out neon isnt exactly my idea of a sports car. a competitor that can steal away some civic buyers, maybe, but not a sports car. bone stock MCS would probably whip a bone stock SRT-4 in a humiliating way.
 
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