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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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So let me get this straight.

A guy from the MINI/BMW dealer is going to pull up to your house in a 7 series give you the keys and take your MINI back for service, leaving you the BMW as a loaner while your MINI is gone and you are worried about how he might treat your car? Or he comes with a flatbed to take it away you’ll not let it go?

I would have no trouble giving my keys to that person at all, but I’m not ****. I just put gas in my MCS with no routine.

Now if the guy showed up in a GEO… Dream on dealer.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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That's it, soundwave - you just cost yourself your membership card in the **** MINI Owners Club (AMOC)!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Xman
I feel the same! For the time being, as soon as I hear the auto lock, I reach the toggle switch and unlock everything, this way the gas cap and boot are also unlocked...
I'm confused. I have the autolock enabled yet when I flip the driver door twice and get out to gas up the gas cap door has been unlocked also. At least I think so. I haven't had the car that long, but I remember wondering what I had to do to get the gas door opened and ended up not having to do anything. The gas cap door does lock via the key so I know that works.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Besides someone running up to your car and opening the door and dragging you out,why would you want the doors to autolock?Kids in the car maybe,but they are as likely to pull it twice,as much as they are once.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lot15
Besides someone running up to your car and opening the door and dragging you out,why would you want the doors to autolock?Kids in the car maybe,but they are as likely to pull it twice,as much as they are once.
I don't know. In my case its the way the car came. I figured at the time I'd make programming changes at first service which is a long way off. The autolock feature really hasn't bothered me and pulling the handle twice isn't a problem.

But while on the subject I don't like the idea that if you lock the doors via the console switch you can't unlock with the door handle. Now I don't know if this is true either - one of those things I planned to verify but the thought was lost as soon as I started driving the car!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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If I lock the doors with the dash toogle,I have to pull twice on the handle to open the door.
But why I would want to lock myself in the car is beyond me.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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It's a safety thing, Lot.

1. A locked door is supposedly less likely to fly open in an accident (or be accidentally opened in transit.)
2. In a carjacking scenario, if someone tried to open your door, they couldn't. I realize they don't even have real cities in Canada , and minimal crime (everyone has what they need, right?) but elsewhere it's a concern for some people.

Ran, likely you have the 'auto unlock on engine off' set as well. You can unlock the door in any scenario. The first pull unlocks it, the second opens it.
Back on topic, Xman, glad to hear you're getting a home grown remedy!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
It's a safety thing, Lot.

1. A locked door is supposedly less likely to fly open in an accident (or be accidentally opened in transit.)
2. In a carjacking scenario, if someone tried to open your door, they couldn't. I realize they don't even have real cities in Canada , and minimal crime (everyone has what they need, right?) but elsewhere it's a concern for some people.

Ran, likely you have the 'auto unlock on engine off' set as well. You can unlock the door in any scenario. The first pull unlocks it, the second opens it.
Back on topic, Xman, glad to hear you're getting a home grown remedy!
I think you're probably right Eric - regarding auto unlock, and those are good reasons to have auto lock. A lot more crime down here - no mounties!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
It's a safety thing, Lot.

1. A locked door is supposedly less likely to fly open in an accident (or be accidentally opened in transit.)
I always thought it was safer to have a door unlock in case of an accident, to avoid any jamming and therefor being trapped...


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Back on topic, Xman, glad to hear you're getting a home grown remedy!
Thanks...I still can't wait to get that auto lock removed.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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I love auto lock/unlock. I also have had a good friend carjacked in a 'safe' neighborhood by someone who pulled open the door and threw them to the ground.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Xman
Thanks for all the feedback.
Everybody pretty much confirmed what I was thinking.
Since there's no flatbed involved, I called them to tell them "thanks, but no thanks". As a compromise, they will send me a new fog light assembly (should be a pretty simple DIY job). As far as the automatic door lock screwup -which drives me nuts- I'll have to live with it until next time I'm around a MINI dealer...
Xman,
Great to hear you have found a solution (sort of).
Tell them to build a MINI dealership in your town/area.

Having a mishap would be the last thing you or the dealership wants.
I would be a very bad day if your MINI looked like this-


or this-


Why is she smiling?
Cause it's not her car!
I wonder what it might have sounded like in the boat?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tradiuz
I love auto lock/unlock. I also have had a good friend carjacked in a 'safe' neighborhood by someone who pulled open the door and threw them to the ground.
That is just terrible !!!

I just don't like the car doing things I can do myself, that's the reason I don't like that automatic feature (or any other "Nanny" features)...and besides, I can do the same job myself with a really cool toggle switch
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Xman
I always thought it was safer to have a door unlock in case of an accident, to avoid any jamming and therefor being trapped...
Yes, but the MINI automatically unlocks the doors when the airbags go off (IIRC), just for that reason. :smile:

Speaking of damages done at a dealership, check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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"This was a customers car that was damaged on a road test by a technician. The car runs and drives.The car has serious body damage on the drivers side and a few scratches and dings on the passanger side. This car is being sold as is."
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
Yes, but the MINI automatically unlocks the doors when the airbags go off (IIRC), just for that reason. :smile:
Did not know that...very cool !!! I won't have to unlock my doors everytime I get on the Freeway
(Still don't like the nanny auto lock though )


Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
Speaking of damages done at a dealership, check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
abstract:
"This was a customers car that was damaged on a road test by a technician. The car runs and drives.The car has serious body damage on the drivers side and a few scratches and dings on the passanger side. This car is being sold as is."
*gulp*....makes my decision REAL easy!

It's a nice way to get a brand new MINI though eventhough I would miss my 03' steering wheel...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Xman
That is just terrible !!!

I just don't like the car doing things I can do myself, that's the reason I don't like that automatic feature (or any other "Nanny" features)...and besides, I can do the same job myself with a really cool toggle switch
Sounds like a “young person’s” perspective to me! When I was a kid many cars had two levers behind the steering wheel - where today’s cars have the turn signal and wiper stalks now - and they controlled the fuel mixture and spark advance. I heard many “old timers” complain that they could do it better. When I learned to drive all cars had manual chokes, and when automatic chokes started appearing many complained that they could do it better. Same thing for many other features.

Maybe you should go back to the days of having a hole in the radiator so that you could hand crank the engine and wouldn’t have to rely on a “Nanny” electric starter!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
That's it, soundwave - you just cost yourself your membership card in the **** MINI Owners Club (AMOC)!
I'll turn in my membership card right away.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick_T.
Sounds like a “young person’s” perspective to me! When I was a kid many cars had two levers behind the steering wheel - where today’s cars have the turn signal and wiper stalks now - and they controlled the fuel mixture and spark advance. I heard many “old timers” complain that they could do it better. When I learned to drive all cars had manual chokes, and when automatic chokes started appearing many complained that they could do it better. Same thing for many other features.

Maybe you should go back to the days of having a hole in the radiator so that you could hand crank the engine and wouldn’t have to rely on a “Nanny” electric starter!
I knew somebody would give me a hard time about that one !!
That's not what I meant by Nanny items.
For example: I like an elcetric window over a manual window, but I still like to decide when the window goes up and down. Same thing for the wipers, I don't like rain sensor devices (but that's just me).
In a word, I don't mind devices that help me do something, I just mind when they decide when to do it for me...
And of course, it only applies to simple items, I don't intent on doing the ECU's job myself...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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Why would you want to put that kind of mileage on your vehicle for such a minor problem? If they intend to flatbed it, OK, but this just doesn't seem worth it, you are running down the mileage on your warranty for this. I agree, take an IOU or change out that bulb yourself and see if they will spot you on the cost...
 
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