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Yes, you are going to code out the CEL? I have not ran one with out both sensors in place and one removed. If its the same thread pitch then yes. Give it a try and see if it works.
Just curious,
do you detect any difference in sound between the 4-2-1 compared to the 4-1?
Any detectable notice in power band change?
I've often read that 4-2-1 is better for midrange while 4-1 is better for top-end --- dunno if such things would be noticeable on a street car though,
still, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Just curious,
do you detect any difference in sound between the 4-2-1 compared to the 4-1?
Any detectable notice in power band change?
I've often read that 4-2-1 is better for midrange while 4-1 is better for top-end --- dunno if such things would be noticeable on a street car though,
still, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
havent started the car yet. Waiting for other parts to come in. Quarantine life at the moment.
but yes. That’s what i went with 4-2-1 for that reason.
didn’t pay attention to the Bung locations until i installed my MTXL + Wideband AFR gauge.
the angle is not ideal as you can see.
ive emailed scorpion and waiting for their response.
here’s what innovative Motorsport said. Regarding to my location question and bung height. Scorpion headers has an 1/2 an inch bung.
“There can be issues with the sensor being clocked at that position and using a shorter bung. I would recommend switching over to our 1” bung as I am worried you could develop issues with the sensor later on.
This was one of those things that I was holding off on due to expense and I need quite a few other things that take precedence over headers.
Keeping tabs on the price and it seems to have recently gone up again on the catted version --- I can only guess they get more expensive from the rising cost of precious metals in the cat?
Browsing the ebay last night noticed a listing for a new uninstalled unit and it was actually a fair asking price with buy-it-now but I'm pinched thin at the moment until next week so I threw an offer in on it which was countered and then I countered the counter and that was accepted.
I'm really happy that I spotted 'em and that the seller was cool too.
Can't wait to get 'em mounted up!
By the way, I was down in your neck of the woods last week,
but it's a sad sad story...
...actually it was in Apalachicola where I had a gig for work. Love that area for laidback chill. It was a small job so we were done on Wed.,
but that morning I got an alert from LKQ for a new arrival down in Largo:
I was like WOW! full aero kit fresh on the yard!
It was a 5 hour drive and I thought it was likely gonna get grabbed quick, but YOLO y'know I decided to go for it --- woke up at 3:30 AM and had a blast night driving on a very isolated hwy 98 but got more crowded as the sun came up and off the forgotten coast.
Got to Largo P-A-P at 8:30 and waited for the opening, got in finally and dashed back to the spot -
LOL
Oh well!
I got there the very next morning but it was already gone gone gone.
My drive home ended up being a long long 13hr trip!
I'm really happy that I spotted 'em and that the seller was cool too.
Can't wait to get 'em mounted up!
By the way, I was down in your neck of the woods last week,
but it's a sad sad story...
...actually it was in Apalachicola where I had a gig for work. Love that area for laidback chill. It was a small job so we were done on Wed.,
but that morning I got an alert from LKQ for a new arrival down in Largo:
I was like WOW! full aero kit fresh on the yard!
It was a 5 hour drive and I thought it was likely gonna get grabbed quick, but YOLO y'know I decided to go for it --- woke up at 3:30 AM and had a blast night driving on a very isolated hwy 98 but got more crowded as the sun came up and off the forgotten coast.
Got to Largo P-A-P at 8:30 and waited for the opening, got in finally and dashed back to the spot -
LOL
Oh well!
I got there the very next morning but it was already gone gone gone.
My drive home ended up being a long long 13hr trip!
I love junkyards and since I travel for work I get to visit a good number of them all over the southeast.
LKQ P-Y-P is my fave because of the pictures, otherwise at other boneyards just going in blind with a sparse descrip of year or whatever but sometimes that pays off with a nice surprise.
I also always like looking at door sill seams too and in my sampling it seems at least 85% of them are rusted
--- the car in Largo was rusted:
How do you feel about these new 421 vs your old headers ? I been looking into these for awhile now too.. do you feel any changes in power , like better low end worse top end ect ??
how do they sound vs the other headers? I feel like that old headers design sucks , mine literally sounds like you can hear the air tumbling through them not flowing evenly. Its hard to explain but I swear I can hear the air tumbling and that cannot be efficient.
Big difference. Yes on the low end. And well built compare to the old one. Sound wise, i don’t have a cat and running a Borla cat back with open CAI. Sounds amazing.
Big difference. Yes on the low end. And well built compare to the old one. Sound wise, i don’t have a cat and running a Borla cat back with open CAI. Sounds amazing.
I ran non cat too and have intake.. my exhaust is pacesetter too so its loud buuut I can still hear that thing I was describing and its ALWAYS bothered me..
Do you feel you lost any top end ? I'm more worried about topend power.. I feel this cars has enough low end grunt its hard to control and id rather have that power come on and be usable later in the rpm range where I won't be wasting it with tire spin or something .
I ran non cat too and have intake.. my exhaust is pacesetter too so its loud buuut I can still hear that thing I was describing and its ALWAYS bothered me..
Do you feel you lost any top end ? I'm more worried about topend power.. I feel this cars has enough low end grunt its hard to control and id rather have that power come on and be usable later in the rpm range where I won't be wasting it with tire spin or something .
i have cat cam installed why i needed the 4-2-1 to compensate for the low end. But no top end is great. Also have bytetronik tune and 550s
Absolutely fantastic!
