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Old Aug 12, 2017 | 10:46 PM
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Rock-Solid Phone for Track Day Timing/Video

Love love Harry's Lap Timer for my track events, HPDE's, etc. Current iOttie mount isn't up to the task in the R53.... (sad).

Who has a unbeatable iPhone 6 Plus mount for the R53 windshield to capture video on top of lap data/timing???!

Thank you in advance!

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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RllyDrvrIX
Love love Harry's Lap Timer for my track events, HPDE's, etc. Current iOttie mount isn't up to the task in the R53.... (sad).

Who has a unbeatable iPhone 6 Plus mount for the R53 windshield to capture video on top of lap data/timing???!

Thank you in advance!

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For me I consider RAM mount system is the best. Once you invested you can adapt it as you phone or camera change. I use one
with 6 plus also like here with 6 plus also like here
, but this one does not have the right purpose-made cradle for the 6 plus.





A bit of a troubling trend is most phone holders are moving away from phone model perfect fit cradle for most folks don't want to keep buying cradles.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 08:12 AM
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This is how it looks with the iPhone plus cradle:


 
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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 08:50 AM
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Thank you!

That does look rock solid. Can the cradle be used with a phone cover or just naked phone?

I'm not too averse to an x-brace with good springs. It like the cradle for its contact with the phone case being more than 4 points.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RllyDrvrIX
Thank you!

That does look rock solid. Can the cradle be used with a phone cover or just naked phone?

I'm not too averse to an x-brace with good springs. It like the cradle for its contact with the phone case being more than 4 points.
Only the naked body of the iPhone can fit, as they are designed to ensure the phone won't pop out even when crash - god forbid. Of course you can get RAM's X cradle.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2017 | 11:44 AM
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iPhone 6s plus a curse?

The track video that I took with Harry's Laptimer using iPhone 6s plus this Friday is very shaky. I used the RAM mount with the iPhone 6s on the windshield just behind the rearview mirror. While I knew to withhold my enthusiasm using the phone camera with the app, I actually tested the same mount with my now-surplus iPhone 5s on public road before I invested in Harry's Laptimer. I did that to test the iPhone camera. While it is very civilized driving it clearly is less shaky. Hence my suspicion that the normally great iPhone 6s optical stabilized camera likely is ill-suited (not tuned nor there is provision to switch to disable optical stabilization) to motorsport video, while the digital image stabilization in the rather obsoleted 5s may actually better for the application.

I just want to show the shakiness is likely due to the iPhone camera behaviors rather than the Ram Mount.

iPhone 5s on public road (not with Harry's Laptimer)

iPhone 6s plus on track (with Harry's Laptimer)
 
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 03:05 PM
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OK, a little update... I ordered the RAM cross-mount with twist-lock from Amazon. Will arrive Thursday so I'll have a couple hours to figure it out before Friday's HPDE....

Thanks for the help and suggestions!
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 04:37 AM
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I think you can use a magnet to disable the camera stabilizer, harry's might have a setting to do it too
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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I think you can use a magnet to disable the camera stabilizer, harry's might have a setting to do it too
After I posted the shaky video I have played with the app at home, and at one time found a few ***** for the iPhone camera setting. There is indeed a setting for something like stabilizer (typical German Engilish). It defaulted to off. I have not a chance to test it.

Now I try to find it again and I could no longer find the page within the app. Harry's is not the most polished track app, but I think is the best at this price point. I do appreciate the complexity of the app ability to be configured and used with countless sensors and camera permutations. Also the fault may be with the iPhone OS. I have seen apps disappears in the OS's Settings, including Harry's.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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OK, a little update... I ordered the RAM cross-mount with twist-lock from Amazon. Will arrive Thursday so I'll have a couple hours to figure it out before Friday's HPDE....

Thanks for the help and suggestions!
You are giving me a bad case of track envy. I am too late to sign up for the event and not hopeful being on waitlist.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 08:31 AM
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If I can't, I might just come and watch and bring my GT4 and long lens camera though may not be the best idea risking it in Friday traffic.
 
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Out of the topic, but the sound is very familiar. Did the cat welding came off at 4:45 of the video, before you exit the track ?

Originally Posted by pnwR53S
The track video that I took with Harry's Laptimer using iPhone 6s plus this Friday is very shaky. I used the RAM mount with the iPhone 6s on the windshield just behind the rearview mirror. While I knew to withhold my enthusiasm using the phone camera with the app, I actually tested the same mount with my now-surplus iPhone 5s on public road before I invested in Harry's Laptimer. I did that to test the iPhone camera. While it is very civilized driving it clearly is less shaky. Hence my suspicion that the normally great iPhone 6s optical stabilized camera likely is ill-suited (not tuned nor there is provision to switch to disable optical stabilization) to motorsport video, while the digital image stabilization in the rather obsoleted 5s may actually better for the application.

I just want to show the shakiness is likely due to the iPhone camera behaviors rather than the Ram Mount.

iPhone 5s on public road (not with Harry's Laptimer)
https://youtu.be/NqhIEpgSaMM

iPhone 6s plus on track (with Harry's Laptimer)
https://youtu.be/BDLdIgYcyrw
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 02:02 PM
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Out of the topic, but the sound is very familiar. Did the cat welding came off at 4:45 of the video, before you exit the track ?
Yes. That is when it happened. It sounded like an IED went off but the AGC of the iPhone adapted to the huge increase of sound level immediately, treating it like ambient noise floor. For the rest of the time exiting the track I thought I blew the engine, especially seeing a huge puff of blue smoke in the rearview mirror. That turned out were from the Honda Civic behind and they black flagged him off the track.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 02:12 PM
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Yes. That is when it happened. It sounded like an IED went off but the AGC of the iPhone adapted to the huge increase of sound level immediately, treating it like ambient noise floor. For the rest of the time exiting the track I thought I blew the engine, especially seeing a huge puff of blue smoke in the rearview mirror. That turned out were from the Honda Civic behind and they black flagged him off the track.
Sorry it happened to you. The exact same thing happened to me while I was passing few cars. It is an unforgettable sound and experience ;-)
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 01:41 PM
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Sorry it happened to you. The exact same thing happened to me while I was passing few cars. It is an unforgettable sound and experience ;-)
I count my blessings despite of the disappointment of only able to run 1/2 of the track time that day. The header is welded now with minimal cost.

Before that track day, I wanted to go to another track that is 60 miles away but I decided not to thinking if something happen on the track far away from home things can get expensive. Had I gone there I have no doubt it would fail there on the track.

I am looking forward to the next track day in September.
 
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