R50/53 MPG: Observed vs. Computer
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MPG: Observed vs. Computer
The onboard computer in my 2003 MCS seems to think I'm getting 24.5 mpg.
Over that same time period, I have only observed 21 mpg (calculated when I fill up using the trip odometer reading).
I have noticed this discrepancy is consistent: the computer shows better mileage than I observe.
Does anyone know how the Mini's computer calculates the mpg?
Over that same time period, I have only observed 21 mpg (calculated when I fill up using the trip odometer reading).
I have noticed this discrepancy is consistent: the computer shows better mileage than I observe.
Does anyone know how the Mini's computer calculates the mpg?
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Mine averages 11% optimistic, ranging from 1% to 19%.
I seem to recall some factoid that the car doesn't register the intake of fuel until a gallon has been put in. That would support the 11% delta, given I usually fill up near empty. But it still sounds weird. More likely that optimistic mileage is good for marketing.
I seem to recall some factoid that the car doesn't register the intake of fuel until a gallon has been put in. That would support the 11% delta, given I usually fill up near empty. But it still sounds weird. More likely that optimistic mileage is good for marketing.
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It would seem my experience is not uncommon. Which leads to my second question, is 21 mpg low for a car with relatively few mods in normal mixed driving?
My 2003 MCS has a 17% pulley and a widened airbox, but no other performance modifications. About half of my driving is on the freeway, and I admit I have a hard time keeping my foot out of it. Still doesn't, 21 mpg seem a bit low?
My 2003 MCS has a 17% pulley and a widened airbox, but no other performance modifications. About half of my driving is on the freeway, and I admit I have a hard time keeping my foot out of it. Still doesn't, 21 mpg seem a bit low?
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I know before my car was tuned, the odb was usually about 2 mpg off...then was more off when I added the jcw 380 injectors...
But when I was tuned...asked for it to be fixed...
And now, the obc is usually within a HALF of a mpg of when I calculate it at the pump...
I can get 29-31 mpg with a 45mph full tank average....usually running 70 mph with cruise, and about 30% stop and go...that is with 93 octane...the typical premium in my area...I do run (for winter 185 width 15" tires...#same diameter as the stock s 195/55r16)...and even my 16's are LIGHT (for OEM) rims...make a HUGE IMPACT compared to 17 s-lites, aka s heavies...
Remember, if you PUSH AND HOLD the obc button, you will reset THAT function...so you can average you fuel mpg or mph over multiple tanks or just one or less...
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I just checked the OBC for my average speed, and it shows 6.8 mph. This is obviously a false reading.
I gather the computer must be logging the considerable time I spend in my driveway listening to radio stories with the engine off.
When I have glanced at the average speed in the past, it has generally shown about 45 mph. I feel like I should be getting better mileage with that average speed.
I gather the computer must be logging the considerable time I spend in my driveway listening to radio stories with the engine off.
When I have glanced at the average speed in the past, it has generally shown about 45 mph. I feel like I should be getting better mileage with that average speed.
Last edited by alistaircookie; 12-02-2014 at 08:19 PM.
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If you do a search, key word MPG, you'll find near 500 threads. This is plowing very old ground. Sales slip vs. OBC mileage calculations will never tally. Condition of injectors, plugs, pilot throttle management and time spent at stop lights are just too many variables to consider. The best thing to do is just enjoy motoring in a MINI. People ask me about mileage and my standard response is: "I don't know and I don't care." If I had a baby blue Prius then they'd know for sure.
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If you do a search, key word MPG, you'll find near 500 threads. This is plowing very old ground. Sales slip vs. OBC mileage calculations will never tally. Condition of injectors, plugs, pilot throttle management and time spent at stop lights are just too many variables to consider. The best thing to do is just enjoy motoring in a MINI. People ask me about mileage and my standard response is: "I don't know and I don't care." If I had a baby blue Prius then they'd know for sure.
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For a daily driver to the office complex and back to the burbs a Prius is just the thing. We've go a hunk of Detroit iron parked next to the MINI for that kind of behavior. But, for 'motoring' the MINI has no substitute for enjoying the open road...except for maybe my long gone '62 XKE roadster.
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I've found most BMW OBC MPG readings to be 5-10% optimistic. Having been a long distance commuter on occasion one of the few things you can do to relieve the daily boredom is attempting to reduce ones fuel usage. With the R50, keeping to the 60mph sweet spot and driving with great anticipation and smoothness I have been able to get the OBC to show 43mpg at fill up, but then been disappointed when filling up brim to brim to have actually only returned 36mpg.
It seems to give you placebo pat on the back for trying to save the planet, but doesn't show pessimistic returns if you wring its neck.
It seems to give you placebo pat on the back for trying to save the planet, but doesn't show pessimistic returns if you wring its neck.
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Try resetting the computer? I avg about +/- 1mpg difference from computer which I think is plenty acceptable. I reset every time I fill up. Otherwise you're averaging over the entire car's life which includes winter gas and summer gas as well as different temperature ranges... all which effect your millage.
P.S. Mine says between 25 and 26 typically... which is 75% spirited, 25% hwy driving with a few mods. Get close to 30 on trips
P.S. Mine says between 25 and 26 typically... which is 75% spirited, 25% hwy driving with a few mods. Get close to 30 on trips