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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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I was amazed how rock solid my MCS felt at 110mph over rough country pavement. The car has no problem getting there either.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Have pictures of me following a Mercedes at a comfortable 110mph on the Autostrade here in Sicily. Car is stuck like a glove to the road, only have to worry about some very minor wheel hop on some corners that have expansion joints embedded in the road. Wheel hop with low profile tires can get a little worrisome IMHO (feel free to correct me if my opinion is wrong ).


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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Hasent like Utah and Nevada gotten rid of the speed limits on their interstates?? I remember that from a few years ago. I'm not certain what states but they were out west some place. Looks like I need to find out and take a road trip!
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjamini
Hasent like Utah and Nevada gotten rid of the speed limits on their interstates?? I remember that from a few years ago. I'm not certain what states but they were out west some place. Looks like I need to find out and take a road trip!
Montana, for a few years, had a rule that the day time speed should be "reasonable and prudent". Unfortunately, they needed the Federal Highway Funds, so they had to put a regular speed limit back in place.

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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but stranger things have happened like the massively overrated power in the rx-8 (the 240 hp model, if i remember correctly, has been measured to have much much lower hp at the wheels, and i'm not talking about 145 ish at the wheels
Stranger yet was the offering by Mazda to buy back the RX-8's from dissatisfied owners when they found out they didn't have 240 HP as advertised.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by objxs
Montana, for a few years, had a rule that the day time speed should be "reasonable and prudent". Unfortunately, they needed the Federal Highway Funds, so they had to put a regular speed limit back in place.
They had that twice. Back in the 1970's they had it, then rescinded with the national 55 MPH campaign due to the oil shortage and then again when most states were allowed to go to a max of 75, they again made it "reasonable and prudent", but alas, us poor American driver caused too many fatalities that it only lasted for three years. Bringing this discussion back into the present, Why oh why haven't we gone back to lower national speeds with our current oil price gouging we're currently experiencing?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Reliability? For sure.

Originally Posted by windrider
This thread is quite interesting...I am the proud, almost owner, of an 04 mcs...delivery in august...My every-other day commute is 94 miles from garage at home to work parking lot...80 of those miles are highway. My question to those in the know is, with upgrades that I plan on doing (intake, exhaust and possibly 17% pully, suspension, i.e. springs and sway bars) will the mini hold up? I have read about potential problems with the water pump at high rpms...any other potential problems for those of you who commute this far, this often? I can't wait to get my baby and love to motor at "slightly" above the posted limit...I-70 in Missouri is almost straight so the cruise to work will be sooooo much fun.

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If you do nothing to your stock MCS you will do fine, drive it stock for the first 2000 miles. If you add intake, cat-back exhaust, and suspension upgrades or wheels you'll be a bit safer for any mechanical problem and still have your warranty for the engine intact.

In fact you might want to go only that far and see how you do for the first 6000-8000 miles. Later if you need to then you can add a reduction pulley but that voids the supercharger warranty. 15% is well tested and reliable. 17% and 19% are doing quite well according to owners across the country.

You'll have no problems commuting long distance with any of these options.
Will your MINI hold up with the mods? Yes. Just don't overdo redline.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Bringing this discussion back into the present, Why oh why haven't we gone back to lower national speeds with our current oil price gouging we're currently experiencing?
RU serious? I mean, nothing stopping you from driving 55 now.

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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RU serious? I mean, nothing stopping you from driving 55 now.

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People need to be TOLD what to do and of course what is good for them. Most complainers about the price of oil also complain about drilling for it....at least in their back yards.....go figure.....
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketrocketowner
People need to be TOLD what to do and of course what is good for them. Most complainers about the price of oil also complain about drilling for it....at least in their back yards.....go figure.....
Wow. I'm a libertarian. My philosophy is 180 degrees opposite. 55mph would do nothing to the price of oil.


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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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I'd like to see the price for gas go up another dollar for a year. It would sure get rid of a LOT of those SUVs you see out there! ;-)

Don't forget that we in America pay a whole lot less for gas than anyone else in the world.

Also don't forget that 55 speed limits aren't really about safety - they're about making money. Counties make a lot of money from traffic tickets and they do so in order to keep from raising taxes.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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[QUOTE=CornOnTheCob]I'd like to see the price for gas go up another dollar for a year. It would sure get rid of a LOT of those SUVs you see out there! ;-)

Don't forget that we in America pay a whole lot less for gas than anyone else in the world.>>>

I just had to jump in here - We do not pay less for gas than "anyone else in the world" the price of a gallon of gas to the average Iraqi right now? Five cents.
I am aware that gasoline in most of Europe and Asia is more expensive than what we pay for it here, however, we are not only an oil-producing nation but we also deal in volume. We in the U.S. are the world's largest consumer of energy. Think of it as a giant "group buy".
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CornOnTheCob
Also don't forget that 55 speed limits aren't really about safety - they're about making money. Counties make a lot of money from traffic tickets and they do so in order to keep from raising taxes.
Actually all highway speed limits are actually set by the Federal Government who collects no money from speeding tickets. Many states would be intersted in higher speed limits but that can't if they want to collect the Federal Highway Maintenance dollars.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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I just had to jump in here - We do not pay less for gas than "anyone else in the world" the price of a gallon of gas to the average Iraqi right now? Five cents.
If you cared to read past the headline you read before you regurgitated this piece of information, you would have seen that they are not paying 5 cents a gallon, they are paying $1.55 a gallon, $1.50 of which America is subsidizing during the transitional period between Saddam's rule, under which gas prices were inexpensive (though not 5 cents a gallon), and the new government, under which gas prices will be higher than they were before. This subsidizing is costing American tax payers $500 million a month.

Thanks for your sensationalized input, though.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pcnorton
RU serious?
Paul, are you serious in your reply or playing with me? I mean, if they had to lower the speed limit from 75 to 55 back in the 70's to get people to conserve fuel, why not now? Were you against what they did back in the 70s by regulating the max speed?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CornOnTheCob
Don't forget that we in America pay a whole lot less for gas than anyone else in the world.
Not true! There are other countries that pay much less per gallon than we do in the USA.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CornOnTheCob
Also don't forget that 55 speed limits aren't really about safety - they're about making money.
Back in the 70's the 55 speed limits were imposed primarily for the reason of fuel conservation during the oil shortage. Sure it's much safer for everybody with lowered speeds on the roadways, this is a physics fact that cannot be argued. Making money is always good. Now why do you think counties will make more money when the national speed limit is set to 55MPH than when set to some number higher?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Now why do you think counties will make more money when the national speed limit is set to 55MPH than when set to some number higher?
Simple. More speeding tickets.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Now why do you think counties will make more money when the national speed limit is set to 55MPH than when set to some number higher?
Simple. More speeding tickets.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Now why do you think counties will make more money when the national speed limit is set to 55MPH than when set to some number higher?
Simple More speeding tickets.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dominicminicoopers
Paul, are you serious in your reply or playing with me? I mean, if they had to lower the speed limit from 75 to 55 back in the 70's to get people to conserve fuel, why not now? Were you against what they did back in the 70s by regulating the max speed?
It was a feel good no substance measure from Jimmy Carter, the same guy that mandated a/c temps in public places.

Yes I am serious. Speed laws are about safety not conserving fuel. Why not a law making it illegal for recreational driving or better yet rationing? Madating frugality is BS. If people want to save they can, nothing stopping them. I was against 55 in the 70's and still am. Don't want to wast fuel that fine. Don't want me to waste fuel? Well mind your own business. Keep the government involved in only one thing: Protecting me from you, not me from me.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Bah. Stupid submit button got stuck.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CornOnTheCob
If you cared to read past the headline you read before you regurgitated this piece of information, you would have seen that they are not paying 5 cents a gallon, they are paying $1.55 a gallon, $1.50 of which America is subsidizing during the transitional period between Saddam's rule, under which gas prices were inexpensive (though not 5 cents a gallon), and the new government, under which gas prices will be higher than they were before. This subsidizing is costing American tax payers $500 million a month.

Thanks for your sensationalized input, though.
First of all, last I checked, $1.55 was still less than you can buy gasoline for anywhere in the U.S., so my original point still holds true.
Second, gasoline started being subsidized by Saddam's government before the regime change and it was bankrupting his government.
Third, if a gallon of gas is $1.55 and $1.50 of that is subsidized, then the cost of a gallon to an Iraqi is still five cents!

Ascerbic and sarcastic, you must be a hit with the opposite sex, huh "Corn"?
 

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Ascerbic and sarcastic, you must be a hit with the opposite sex, huh "Corn"?
I'm also a nitpicker. You misspelled acerbic.

 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Cartoon for you

Originally Posted by CornOnTheCob
I'm also a nitpicker. You misspelled acerbic.

 
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