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R50/53 Alignment question. Camber affecting toe

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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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Alignment question. Camber affecting toe

So I just took my car to have it aligned and asked them to set my rear camber to 0. Yes I have adjustable control arms cuz my car is lowered and Yes I know that it will handle like crap at 0 but being in Florida were there are few twisty roads, the inside edge of my tires get eaten up. Soooo....I leave the car with them and when I come back they tell me they couldn't set it to 0 because it would pull the toe way out of alignment, is this actually correct. I know toe is adjustable but only by trial and error and I dont actually expect them to do this. I'm frustrated because I'm pretty sure another shop has set it to 0 or damn close without screwing up the toe.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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I reckon that's legit. With the adjustable LCA reducing camber moves the hub inwards, and since that hub has a trailing arm to locate it that varies the toe.

I run at -1.0 and do not have wear issues - perhaps a compromise is possible?

By the way, I'd expect the toe to go positive in the scenario you describe. That would make the car pretty twitchy...

Cheers,

Charlie
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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Though I've never tried this, I don't buy it. I would say that you can go to 0-2mm toe and 0 camber. When I set the camber the other day to 1.25 deg negative, me changing the toe didn't affect the camber at all.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:57 AM
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How does this look?

Trailing-arm bracket has to move a little?

Cheers,

Charlie
 
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