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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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An ALL OVER THE WORLD car!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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If your life depended on it and you had to classify the new mini as one or the other, which would it be and why?
From the thread so far, it looks like a lot of people are going to die if they ever encounter this choice.

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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Given the number of problems listed on this forum, I would have to say British.
Most of you are no doubt to young to remember:Lucas-the Prince of Darkness or the three position light switch on early British cars-dim, flicker, and off. And finally; Why do the British drink warm beer?

Because they have Lucas refrigerators! (rim shot)


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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Way too over-engineered. Don't confuse with refined.

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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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>>So I guess those Toyotas from Tennessee and Hondas from Ohio are American cars.

Yep! That's how Toyota can enter a truck in NASCAR's Craftsman Truck series as of next season. THAT will be interesting, eh?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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>>If your life depended on it and you had to classify the new mini as one or the other, which would it be and why? Discuss. :smile:
I have thought about this too. For me it comes down to this. Beatles music seems much more appropoiate for the MINI than does Kraftwerk.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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>>I have thought about this too. For me it comes down to this. Beatles music seems much more appropoiate for the MINI than does Kraftwerk.


Everyone knows that Krauts can't rock!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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I vote for Italian!

 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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>>A German engineered British car.


Yes - by George, you've got it!

This is the best description I've ever read!

and my drive home music was a CD I made of my favorite Bealtes songs. After 2 days of playing it, I think it totaly fits the car and the light hearted attitude!

 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Could have sworn someone told me that Land Rover originally designed the new MINI. Does anyone know for sure?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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... the new Range Rover was designed by BMW before they sold off that company but no MINI design was done there ...
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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If ya have the time read this article from baselinemag.com... Major Changes at MINI
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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>>Everyone knows that Krauts can't rock!

Scorpions? Rammstein? Yngwie F**king Malmsteen?

 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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>> ... the new Range Rover was designed by BMW before they sold off that company but no MINI design was done there ...

Cool, 8ball. Thanks for the 411.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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>>Given the number of problems listed on this forum, I would have to say British.
>>Most of you are no doubt to young to remember:Lucas-the Prince of Darkness or the three position light switch on early British cars-dim, flicker, and off. And finally; Why do the British drink warm beer?
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>>Because they have Lucas refrigerators! (rim shot)
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This is too close to the truth - but unlike the English, the damn Germans won't give us a workshop manual to fix the flubs outselves! ... at least you could tinker with an English car, workshop book by you side, knowing you were making it better instead of wondering if you were gonna do irreparable damage to some hidden blackbox ...
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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>>The "BMW MINI" is:
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>>American: design (Yes the new MINI was designed by an American), suspension bits, Delphi systems


Technically MINI stylist and designer Frank Stephenson is an American because he carries a US passport. However, I do believe that his Father is Norweigan, his Mother Spanish, and his upbringing Cosmopolitan. I hear that he is happily employed at Maserati / Ferrari now. So maybe that makes him Italian too!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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Who cares.. ..Its a fun car and thats that.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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>>Technically MINI stylist and designer Frank Stephenson is an American because he carries a US passport. However, I do believe that his Father is Norweigan, his Mother Spanish, and his upbringing Cosmopolitan. I hear that he is happily employed at Maserati / Ferrari now. So maybe that makes him Italian too!

I must say that I am impressed by this bit of trivia. The question begs asking however...HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THIS...AND WHY??
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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>>Scorpions? Rammstein? Yngwie F**king Malmsteen?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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I considered my american-built toyota truck to be japanese because that's where the money ended up.So I would ultimately like to think of my mini as german.Even though it was made in england.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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I considered my american-built toyota truck to be japanese because that's where the money ended up.So I would ultimately like to think of my mini as german.Even though it was made in england.
This was my exact thoughts, but then I thought about the mini history and started to question myself and that's why I posed the question to you guys. Good answers by many, although some of you are now considered dead as doornails.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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As you can see, parts are from all over.

But 50% of the parts are British. 30% German. It's assembled in England.

I would say it's British.

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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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Coincidently a friend asked me this at lunch today. I said British because I think of my Mrs. Peel being "as British as Basil Fawlty" as someone else said earlier. But it made me wonder what people in those Isles think. Any of our Brit Bros and Sis's out there to weigh in? (Or maybe some have and I didn't realize it.)

"Krauts can't rock"? That just means you need to learn more about German music.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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MINI has parts from everywhere. Radios and changers from Alpine, a Japanese company (though the units are made in China). The switchgear comes from Alps (Japan, though the units are made in China) or TRW (US, UK-made, though the units are made in China), Engine from Tritec (A joint venture of BMW and (now) DaimlerChrysler, Brazilian-made, though the units are made in China), Shocks from Delphi (A unit of GM, but UK-made, though the units are made in China), engine controls from Siemens (German, though the units are made in China), body control by Motorola (US, though the units are made in China), heater-a/c, radiator, body hardware and the locks/keys from Valeo (France, E.U.-made, though the units are made in China), MCS tranny from Getrag (Germany, though the units are made in China), etc...

Chinese!

 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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>>"Krauts can't rock"? That just means you need to learn more about German music.

Der Kommissar's in town, uh uh oh!
 
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