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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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i hear a lot bout a ''yo yo'', wat exactly is it?

 
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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great question! i know what the stumble is and i've felt it. i still don't know what the yo yo thing is... i hope someone knows...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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... contrary to popular opinion, it is not the desire or tendacy to transport a famous asian string player ...

... it is the start-stop-start-stop hesitation-like feeling that leaves you rocking back-and-forth in your seat.

... as if you were at the end of a string!

 
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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is it a slow wave like motion or a herky jerky thing?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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I'm not sure if this is what's being talked about, but I've got an MCS with the 6-speed, and what I've noticed is that there seems to be quite a bit of lash in the drive train. The transition from gas-on to gas-off it not tight. You don't just feel the addition or removal of power, you also feel the lash, or slack in the drive train, which produces a fairly abrupt jerk.

So if you have to get off and gas, and then back on it quickly, you end up getting jerked back and forth. This can produce a yo-yo effect, when your foot is pushed onto or off of the accelerator by the jerking. It kind of feeds on itself, and you have to have a light foot to avoid it.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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YOYO - Technical term "step acceleration" - an instability of RPM at the transition point between 1/2 throttle and WOT (wide open throttle) - in the MCS this occurs at 2800 to 4000 rpm with about 1/2 throttle. This causes the passengers to rock fore and aft a little when it happens. Only happens while rpm is increasing and when the engine is torque loaded - the effect is accentuated by going up hill (torque load) . Floor it or baby it and it won't happen.

In 2nd gear at 2800 -3000 RPM ease the throttle down (increase torque loading)and the car yoyos up to 4000 rpm - repeat for the next 4 gears and you have it as bad as me.

I get it in every gear except 1st.

Hope this helps.

I posted the above text in another of the myriad of threads about what BMW would have us believe are software problems. Those being yoyo, stumble/hiccup, and bog.

The search function in yellow on the right side of the screen helps a lot when looking for specific terms.

 
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