Any FWD car is going to have torque steer. The MINI is actually pretty mild compared to some other cars i've driven. 45 degrees is a LOT of correction for torque steer. Are you sure something else wasn't going on?

Kinda sounds like you were turning, torque steer really refers to the car wanting to pull to one direction while trying to go straight.

 

Quaife - don't leave home without one...

 

That's your problem.


As suggested, get a Quaife.

 

 

That much torque steer with that mod list is excessive though.

- Matt

 

Agreed...

 

There are quite a few tests for an LSD, you can do one of the tests to confirm. 1 line of rubber on the ground sort of sounds like you DO have an LSD.

In most cases an LSD will cause MORE torque steer, not less. Remember how an LSD works, if one wheel isn't getting traction it transfers more power to the other wheel (meaning it's going to pull more in that direction).

I still think that's too much torque steer for the power he's making. I don't see even close to that (Never had to turn my steering wheel 45 degrees EVER for torque steer) and I'm making a lot more power.

 

[quote=rustyboy155;2158346]...1 line of rubber on the ground sort of sounds like you DO have an LSD.

.../quote]

with respect, the mark of the Quaife is TWO lines, not one -- that's the whole difference

 

[quote=cmt52663;2158415]+1.

The whole point of the LSD is to get power to both wheels, not just one. If both wheels are getting power, there is far less torque steer.

Empirically I can attest to this as I added the LSD after I got the car.

 

I was going up hill i dont know if that had anything to do with it?
and it was mostly across the wide painted line?
Is there a simple way to figure out if i have the lsd
I mean i jacked up one wheel and it turns freely when in the air

 

The torque steer in this car is VERY mild compared to other FWD cars I have driven. I have spent a good amount of time in a gutted Integra Type R (had an LSD) and it definitely would pull hard to the outside in a turn if you gassed it too quick. No such problem to speak of with the MCS yet.

 

The MINI [especially an open-diff R53] has virtually no torque steer compared to the big torque steer hitters [Omni GLH & Neon SRT-4]. It sounds like you were in an odd situation, non-level pavement with varying friction coefficients

 

With a stock R53 I would agree.

However, with his 15% pulley, tune and no LSD, he's going to have a whole handful of torque steer even compared to the other "big hitters".

 

Dont forget my exaust!
It hasent done it again.
Im more worried about the wicked shimmy it has under braking check it out under the suspension forum.....
thanks guys ijust got to figure out my diff situation

 

I've driven Danny's car (The 270 whp monster with the stock M45) and there isn't much torque steer at all. My car makes 231 whp and has virtually no torque steer. A car with a pulley, CAI, exhaust, and tune isn't going to have more torque steer than an SRT-4. Have you ever driven an SRT-4?

Those things are WILD.

 

Dunno i think it was a not a good night for me on lake forest parkway....
And i have been in a friends srt 4 and did no like it. It felt slow.
hes got all kinds of stuff in it two.
i never noticed the steering wheel jerking back and forth.

 

Just call a mini service department and give them your VIN number, they can tell you if it has LSD. Or 866-ASK-MINI.

 

In my Feb 2003 build MCS with an open diff, I had no torque steer. I went twin-charged and bumped the HP up to 302 hp. Very little torque steer in 1st, and none in 2nd-6th. I could let go the wheel in 2nd gear, floor it unleashing the massive torque of the twincharged engine and the car went straight down the road. Then I got the Quaiffe LSD, and then you know what? Yep, you guessed it, no torque steer! :D

I sold the 2003 and bought a 2007. Guess what! It has torque steer where a 20-30 tilt is required in various situations. :( :(

 

Ya, my R56 had a LOT of torque steer. The R53 JCW, almost none. Every great once in a while if I hit uneven pavement, it will get just a tad.

 

And he isn't using an LSD?

 

Seriously, R53's don't have torque steer unless they have the factory clutch pack LSD. My single turbo R53 had 318wHP and weighed 2360 pounds with an open diff and I could let go of the wheel in any gear and there would be zero torque steer as the turbo spooled up. No joke. No really, seriously.

 

So we know that the R53 has virtually no torque steer. My only idea for this guy is his alignment! Maybe he has a lot of toe-out causing the car to wander under acceleration.

 

I'm surprised to hear there is ANY torque steer, seeing as how the R53/R50 both have equal length driveshafts, which is where torque steer mainly comes from. The only torque steer I think that you could get is from the tranny somewhere, with different power going to each side of the diff? BTW, the R56 has unequal length drive shafts, so thats why its such a big difference between the new and new-er

 

Must depend on the car. Prior to the (factory) LSD installation my R53 JCW would drift a foot or two to the left immediately after takeoff. I would not launch a spirited start with a car next to me on the left for fear of hitting it. With the '05 factory tranny/LSD combo installation, the torque steer has virtually vanished. The whp is not going to be an issue after a certain level. Whether the car is putting out 315 or 190 whp, the limit to accelleration in the first 2 gears is tire traction. Either the 190 or the 315 can smoke the tires. Having traction on both wheels rather than just one will maximize lateral friction and reduce lateral drift. BTW, I agree that the R53 (with or without LSD) has virtually no torque-steer until the power approaches the threshhold of traction.