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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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MCS nemesis = VW GTI
MC nemesis = VW New Beetle, Scion xB
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DixonL2
MCS nemesis = VW GTI
MC nemesis = VW New Beetle, Scion xB
Competitor, yes; nemeses, no.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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What about the new 1 Series BMW?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Its funny. One guy I work with has a Miata and another has an Xb. A third has a Civic. Man, we could have a war at work if we wanted to. I know I'm the best driver because 2 of them drive like asses (Miata and Mr. Honda) and the guy with the Xb weighs 350lbs and has another 200 worth of stereo in it.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Nemesis:
1: the Greek goddess of retributive justice
2 plural nem·e·ses \-ˌsēz\ a: one that inflicts retribution or vengeance b: a formidable and usually victorious rival or opponent
3 plural nem·eses a: an act or effect of retribution b: bane 2

How could ANY car want to "inflict vengeance" on a cute widdle Mini Cooper?
(and no SUV bashing, there are wa-ay too many threads on that).

I do like thinking of my car as a Greek Goddess...

Originally Posted by DixonL2
MCS nemesis = VW GTI
MC nemesis = VW New Beetle, Scion xB
Competitor, yes; nemeses, no.
I see your point. MC-Beetle: nemesis. MCS-GTI: Competitor.
 

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Yucca Patrol
The new Fiat 500 might be a good "nemesis", but I haven't heard any reports of it having the outstanding handling of our MINI's. . . .
According to EVO Mag regarding the new Fiat 500: “the bottom line is that it doesn’t succeed like the MINI” . Unless Fiat produces a GT-R, GTI, etc., version, I don't think the handling will approach a Mini One. No nemesis there.
 

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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"Do you know what 'nemesis' means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible c*#$... me."

 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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This thread has become weird.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Urkle on Family Matters had a Isetta remember. I would consider any blinged up Honda a nemisis, as they all pull up and try to start stuff. I drove the Mazadaspeed3, as did LynnEl, wouldn't put it in the same catergory as the Mini as it looks like a run of the mill family car, but wow what a nice powerplant. I think a Mini with 230+ WHP it would keep up with it though after 1st gear.
 

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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My nemesis has always been any car with a light bar on it.

Edit - although sometimes the flashing blue lights can also be hidden behind the grill

Edit 2 - oh yeah, and slow drivers in the left lane
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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I got run off the road by a of drag racing monster truck (highly customized pick-up truck with monster tires) and a highly modified monster SUV a couple of weeks ago. Do they count?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Possible nemesis/competitors: Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Cayman,...
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JustJAY
What about the new 1 Series BMW?
Depends on the version.

If it was the 1.6 four or a 2.0... maybe.

With the 3.0 straight six and rear drive? Probably not. That's more a lighter, faster 3 series.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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#1 MCS nemesis = $$ Dealer Service
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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#1 MCS nemesis = $$ Dealer Service

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by HighLife4136
R56
Great, Just what the site needs --- a new Mini heckler.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by billzcat1
Hi All -

This thought occurred to me the other day as I have joined a different community of motoring enthusiasts. Bear in mind I use the term nemesis without malice - not referring to hatred, but to a competitive nature, a little jealousy, etc.

I'm a long-time Audi driver and over in Audi-land (won't say Audiworld because I hate that place) there are two nemeses - Subarus and BMWs. Subarus because they compete in the same manner (AWD + turbo) and tend to outperform Audis (especially for the money). BMWs because they compete on the same luxury level and again... tend to outperform their Audi equivalent.

So with MINI... what would be the nemesis? I was thinking Scions would qualify since they have a similar "you-ification" mantra; a small, mod-friendly, fun car designed to be very practical for the size/price. Another thought was the VW GTI - the 'competitive' hot hatch. Maybe the VW New Beetle for the retro-hatch contingent.

Another related thought is how MINI doesn't really have a strong side-by-side competitor in the hot-hatch segment.

Any thoughts?
Only thing that came to mind was R56 owners are jealous of R53 owners. Because our cars are so much better looking.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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So are Ferraris...

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From what I have read about it so far, the Fiat is going after Mini's "cuteness" and not much else. Plus, it's a Fiat.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisW
Only thing that came to mind was R56 owners are jealous of R53 owners. Because our cars are so much better looking.
We already have more than enough old ones......
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisW
Only thing that came to mind was R56 owners are jealous of R53 owners. Because our cars are so much better looking.
R53 = 05 Classic Mini updated perfectly!

R56 = R53 turned into a Hatchback Neon or new 2007 AMC Pacer

I waited for the R56 to come out and puked
I will keep my R53 MCS 6-sp.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Thanks a lot, Chris. You managed to get it started yet again.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
Thanks a lot, Chris. You managed to get it started yet again.
I am kidding...You car is yours and my opinion of it should not matter.

PACERS ROCK!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JCW Driver
Depends on the version.

If it was the 1.6 four or a 2.0... maybe.

With the 3.0 straight six and rear drive? Probably not. That's more a lighter, faster 3 series.
....barely lighter than 3 series. The 135i is 3400#+. Its a shame really.
 
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