R50/53 Grrr... help me with the facts about MINI safety.
3rd Gear
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OK Sanderskog, now you are talking :smile: We are the same with mother-n-laws.
Tell her the Mini is a BMW, does she think BMW's are unsafe?
Tell her to be the spoon.
Tell her that all cars now in are safer then anything 20 years ago (design, contruction, drop engine, air bags...). She lived, her daughter lived.
This is the stuff you want? :smile:
Tell her the Mini is a BMW, does she think BMW's are unsafe?
Tell her to be the spoon.
Tell her that all cars now in are safer then anything 20 years ago (design, contruction, drop engine, air bags...). She lived, her daughter lived.
This is the stuff you want? :smile:
6th Gear
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From: USA
Just lie to her. Tell her you are getting a Hummer.
Show up first time in the Mini with a leather jacket
and temporary tattoos and throw up.
Then you can be an official member of the Mini
Renegade Club. :evil:
Show up first time in the Mini with a leather jacket
and temporary tattoos and throw up.
Then you can be an official member of the Mini
Renegade Club. :evil:
6th Gear
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From: Santa Rosa, CA
If your mom doesn't like your MINI, blame it on her. After all she raised you!
Works for me when My mom gets out of line.
By the way, she didn't like my mini either. I got her to go for a ride with me and found a traffic circle. By the third time around whe was laughing.
Andy
Works for me when My mom gets out of line.
By the way, she didn't like my mini either. I got her to go for a ride with me and found a traffic circle. By the third time around whe was laughing.
Andy
6th Gear
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From: VA Beach
My mom was pretty nervous about me getting such a small car also. But, being the kind of parent who doesn't like to interfere, she didn't nag me about it, she just let me know occasionally that she was a little nervous. I took her to see some MINIs at a dealer well before mine arrived. She liked the car, but again, was a little nervous.
Cut to several months later: I had had the car for about a month and went to visit my folks. On the way there, the weather strip between the windscreen and the roof came out, so I had to bring it to the dealer the next day. My mom decided to come with me on the 2 hour highway drive. I knew she was okay with the MINI within the first 15 minutes when she didn't tense up as I passed an 18-wheeler on a 2-lane highway! I was really expecting her to be on the white-knuckle express with that one, but it didn't happen.
While she wouldn't drive one herself, I think she has come to appreciate that my car really is a lot safer than she thought. And she loves the styling!
In short: Get what you want to drive. Ignore what others have to say about your choices. If you really must react to them, be well-educated about the issue (which I think you are trying to be) and simply inform them that their notions about safety are inaccurate. If they persist, realize that it is impossible to educate people who choose to be ignorant and move on.
Cut to several months later: I had had the car for about a month and went to visit my folks. On the way there, the weather strip between the windscreen and the roof came out, so I had to bring it to the dealer the next day. My mom decided to come with me on the 2 hour highway drive. I knew she was okay with the MINI within the first 15 minutes when she didn't tense up as I passed an 18-wheeler on a 2-lane highway! I was really expecting her to be on the white-knuckle express with that one, but it didn't happen.
While she wouldn't drive one herself, I think she has come to appreciate that my car really is a lot safer than she thought. And she loves the styling!
In short: Get what you want to drive. Ignore what others have to say about your choices. If you really must react to them, be well-educated about the issue (which I think you are trying to be) and simply inform them that their notions about safety are inaccurate. If they persist, realize that it is impossible to educate people who choose to be ignorant and move on.
2nd Gear
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From: Oregon
Hi Sanderskog...well speaking from experience I can tell you that I believe the MINI to be very safe. I just went up against an SUV with my MINI going about 40 mph. Here's a link to the pics..your mom can gander at those.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...c=11059&52
Considering the force of the crash & the fact the Infiniti weighs ~4500lbs and the MCS weighed ~2500 lbs I'd say MINI did it's job in fine fashion. Also I've seen how well the back seats are built when torn apart (from another modster), I'd trust the MINI in a rear collision too. My mom worried too when I bought this car but you know what?..she's not complaining now that I'm ordering another one, she's actually happy! Ultimately it's YOUR families decision!
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...c=11059&52
Considering the force of the crash & the fact the Infiniti weighs ~4500lbs and the MCS weighed ~2500 lbs I'd say MINI did it's job in fine fashion. Also I've seen how well the back seats are built when torn apart (from another modster), I'd trust the MINI in a rear collision too. My mom worried too when I bought this car but you know what?..she's not complaining now that I'm ordering another one, she's actually happy! Ultimately it's YOUR families decision!
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My 2c worth:
Safety comes from engineering, not mass.
Danger to self and other drivers comes from mass.
If you have a frontal at 45 mph with a Suburban or an H2,
you are going to be in a very, very bad shape, if you are in a MINI.
If you are in another suburban, you are ALSO going to be in a very, very bad shape, because there is a lot more energy to transform in a two-suburban crash, and it does not have good safety engineering.
So, you could argue that the MINI is not a safe car in such a crash, but being in a large SUV will not give you any more safety, even though that is a very common misconception! No car is a safe car when you have a frontal with a suburban! The bottom line here, it matters less what you drive, it matters more what the other one involved in a collision drives!
In a lateral impact, in certain crashes you may have an advantage when you are in a lighter car, as more of the impact energy gets transfered to accelerating your car out of the way, rather than deforming it.
In single car crashes, there is a huge mass disadvantage, and smaller cars are safer. SUVs are also far more likely to get involved in single car crashes.
Finally, active safety becomes more and more important, the more SUVs are out there. The MINI is one of the best when it comes to active safety.
Most of all, drive with awareness, and drive safely!
Safety comes from engineering, not mass.
Danger to self and other drivers comes from mass.
If you have a frontal at 45 mph with a Suburban or an H2,
you are going to be in a very, very bad shape, if you are in a MINI.
If you are in another suburban, you are ALSO going to be in a very, very bad shape, because there is a lot more energy to transform in a two-suburban crash, and it does not have good safety engineering.
So, you could argue that the MINI is not a safe car in such a crash, but being in a large SUV will not give you any more safety, even though that is a very common misconception! No car is a safe car when you have a frontal with a suburban! The bottom line here, it matters less what you drive, it matters more what the other one involved in a collision drives!
In a lateral impact, in certain crashes you may have an advantage when you are in a lighter car, as more of the impact energy gets transfered to accelerating your car out of the way, rather than deforming it.
In single car crashes, there is a huge mass disadvantage, and smaller cars are safer. SUVs are also far more likely to get involved in single car crashes.
Finally, active safety becomes more and more important, the more SUVs are out there. The MINI is one of the best when it comes to active safety.
Most of all, drive with awareness, and drive safely!
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