S2000

Fun sports car. Don't need to haul to much around for a weekend geteway. Honda reliability. No contest.

In fact, with all due respect, once you have that roadster, much faster than a MCS, you may never drive the MINI again.

(my shields are up)!

 

FLAME ON!! haha

 

To be fair, a S2000 stock is a faster car than probably spider now has with all his heavy mods ...it would be interesting to hear his opinion after driving a new S2000.

Cost more, but then again you got that Honda reliability

 

I believe you will be very happy with an S2000. While the 350Z is a nice car, with the roof cut off it's darned ugly.

 

Neither,

Get a used Boxster S, and let others debate the pros and cons of the Japanese machines.

MGC

 

I was going to suggest that because you can get a great deal on an 05 right now because of the 07 engine change ... but the price are still up in the highs 40s/low 50s and spider has not indicated what he is budgeting for this.

 

Of the two the S2000 wins hands down, way better 'drivers car'. Sublime handling and a motor that revs to infinity (and beyond).

There are only a couple of things that put me off - the uber-high gearing means that it does not get to use the last couple of ratios on the track and there are some pretty massive gaps between the ratios that it has (I drove an '04 so things may be different), you truely have to work to keep it in the power band.

The steering is also ever-so-slightly vague and you sit rather too low.

The 350Z sounds supurb. Everything else about it is terrible especially the depreciation !

My weekend car is an MR2 Spyder, some see them as a poor-mans Boxter, others see them as a girly runabout. That is until they experience their abilities.....

Snap oversteer can be an issue, but the fun factor is higher than the s2000 and the 350Z.....

 

For a drivers car the S2000, great fun but you need to concentrate to keep it in the power band.

For a daily driver that looks good the 350Z, much easier to live with.

For the Porsche make sure you know how much servicing will be before getting one.

 

Porsche = high maintenance $

I need to drive an S2000...

I got into it once with and S2000 and it did not seem faster than my car...... not that that matters

anyone know the "board" for S2000 owners....(NAM type)

 

I just looked it up and the S2000 has 237 hp..... i have more,..... and 167 lb tq I have a lot more.... why do you think it is faster.... i could not find the weight

 

I used to have an S2000 when I lived in Salt Lake City and loved it. It was my daily driver for almost 5 years and with snow tires I would run circles around all the trucks and SUV that people couldn't make work in the snow. If I were going to buy one again I would look for a 2002/3 because they changed the rear window to glass and you still get the 9k redline. Otherwise, there are only a couple of options on them. No power seats or locks, no heated seats, etc. It is a pretty basic interior, but it was enough for me. My favorite thing was the transmission...11mm from gate to gate made shifting so much fun. And anyone that said they were racing an S2000 in their stock MCS and it was close is lying because the S2000 wasn't racing. Heck, my '06 JCW is slower than my S2000 was. The S2000 will do 0-60 in 5 seconds and the quarter in about 13. And the 2.0L had 240 hp and 137 tq. and weighed just over 2700lbs. Comptech (CARB approved) and Vortec both make S/C's that bump the power to 340 hp on 6psi and are very safe to run.

Hope that helps a little. If you have any questions, let me know. And the S2000 site is www.s2ki.com.

 

Curb weight is 2860. I was comparing stock with stock.

Per R&T, stock MCS is 6.8, JCW, 6.4
S2000 is 5.4, not sure where Duece is getting 5 second, not sure I believe that.

I said MCS vice S2000. You may have enough HP, modified as heavily as you are, to be equal to OEM S2000

As to the cost of a Boxster maintenaince ... why do say that?

Service costs are about the same if you paid MINI for the service ... I've read an annual service at $300.

Tires are the killer, a set of tires will cost $1K easy.
That doesn't quite jive with with what the auto mags say.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf

0 - 60 5.4, 1/4 13.9 0 - 100, 13.8

13.8 is slowing down compared to others in the comparison

I'm not bashing the S2000, its the one I would pick.

 

Here you go, this is the big one I think:

http://www.s2ki.com/Home/

SO had the first version of the s2k; it was a great car with a beautiful gearbox and very precise steering with great feedback. It really had the back to basics sportscar feeling (although some seat heaters would have been nice ) and he really enjoyed it for the time he had it.

 

S2000 hands down, gorgeous looks, perfection of everything "Honda", but has loud interior, poor visibility

350Z convertible is a mangled version of the coupe and looks ugly, very heavy car, but its probably easier to live w/ daily and you can put a set of rims w/ a massive lip in the rear

 

I am starting to get very interested in the S2000

what about the handling are their upgardes and are they necessary?

 

Sorry, I apparently didn't get **** enough on the 0-60 times for some ...SpiderX said he wanted a weekend car, not a race car. I meant that the S2000 was in the 5's whereas the MINI is in the 6's (all depends on drivers and conditions). Although, you do have to launch at 7800 rpms to get those times in the S2000. And since we're being ****, those times increase with altitude. The best 1/4 mile I saw in Salt Lake was in the upper 14's.

But weight was definitely less than 2800lbs., at least for the year 2000 ayways.

 

If you're not going to track it I think it handles just fine. Otherwise there are plenty of upgrades...just depends on how much you want to spend.

 

am i alone here in liking the Z? i love the S2K too don't get me wrong, but i just love the chunky looks of the Z and the VQ35 V6 has been named the best motor in the world numerous times by international publications. the S2K is due to be redesigned soon, and the Z will remain as is for coulple more years. there are many twin turbo and supercharger kits available for the Z as well. for my money, it would be a tough decision yes but i'd drive both back to back and consider what it will be used for mainly, then go from there

 

Yes! but with a name like DISCO what do you expect?

 

95% of owners who touch the S2K's suspension make it handle worse, I wouldn't touch it if I were you. Btw, S2k hands down to your original question. If its a toy car, definitely. I can see the Z if it were your everday car, but its not, so as such, the Z is TOO HEAVY. s2k handles great, revs like all hell, its about 800 lbs lighter than a z convertible, and maintenance costs will be significantly less for a lighter car (which matters a lot in a toy car IMO). Call me Colin Chapman, but thats my take on it (and I'll take it as a copliment!). . .

 

At least Honda makes things light AND reliable

 

true, something you can't say for Lotus's, even the new elise uses the notoriously flaky yamaha engineered motor out of the celica GT-S. They shoulda used a B18C5 (like the sun motorsports elise) instead.

 

Yes! My Honda lawn mower just turned 5 year old and still runs like a champ!

 

Chows, sometimes I have to wonder, why is it that you seems to have the need to take seemingly cheap shots at the MINI all the time?

You seem to have an ax to grind not only with the car, but the community behind it.

Please tell me I am wrong.

 

That was hardly a cheap shot. Stock to stock, he's right. The MINI is a fantastic car, but the S2000 is on another level.