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Old 05-18-2007, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
Bart- considering that I need to get up at 6:30am to drop off my civic, (a nuesance) please hi-jack more about fun cars like porsches and bimmers.

And I'm still out of the country... Hope I get home tonight.
I'm confused... you took your civic with you when you went out of the country?

Or are you one of those guys with a car in every port?
 
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I'm confused... you took your civic with you when you went out of the country?

Or are you one of those guys with a car in every port?
i call those cars Hertz rentals for me... just as bad as any
daily driver can be. lol!

so i took my car in this morning. the rattle/clunk noise was not doing
as much (go figure, huh? ) since it only does it on warm/hot
days and it was chilly this morning...regardless, service guy rode around
with me, jotted down some notes, and took it in. parts are ordered, got
my car back washed. (daily drivers are okay to be washed
by the dealer).

should have this issue resolved by next week. hopefully....
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:41 PM
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well the truth is, even 'ultimate driving machines' can catch a similar ailment...

when I took delivery of my 335 coupe, there was a tiny ding [ ] on the ultra-prominent crease line on the passenger side, for which the dealer promptly engaged their resident 'dent-wizard' to correct by appointment... so he does a fantastic job with no residual external evidence, and they assured me in advance that the dealer would remove the back seat side panel to allow access, and then re-install it after it was de-dinged......

but guess what?- the tech damaged the fiber optic orange mood lighting strip in the back side panel so it no worky anymore....

ok, bring it back in, this time, while the tech ascertains what is wrong, he gets black smudges all over the headliner and they subsequently order a part from the motherland....

bring it back again they say, the part is in and they will car spa my interior for free.... well the new fiber optic strip fails to work out of the box, but they are successful in cleaning the headliner....

weeks go by, I call "wassup-??? "... oh yeah, your part is in! make another appointment.

So who wants to speculate on what will happen next Thursday when I take it in? Will they fix it or break it more?

ok, now back to our regularly scheduled hijack banter of unrelated automobilism....
 

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Old 05-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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of course, on the other end of the spectrum, I once owned an 8 year old Fiat 124 Spyder, and when something broke on it, no one cared and I got to learn the metric system

so the moral is, kooky dealer service depts are not the worst thing...
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:01 PM
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of course, on the other end of the spectrum, I once owned an 8 year old Fiat 124 Spyder, and when something broke on it, no one cared and I got to learn the metric system
Eek I owned a FIAT X1/9 ... absolutely the WORSE car I ever owned.

BTW, I just read a thread where someone owned a CS AND a 335i
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:06 PM
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bart- yah, i still have that unresolved a/c issue on my MCS as well...
just part of bimmer ownership, perhaps? not that in your case it
was the manufacturer, but more of the techs working on your car.
my case, these are all manufacturing defects/shortcomings.

ive seen teenagers install stereo systems at circuit city with better
results then what you've described. no scratches, no nothing.
it's sad to see trained professionals charging over $100/hr damage
new cars.

im starting to think the Fits are kinda cool... ive been eyeing that
GTI wagon for a while, but not sure. it's going to be too small to
carry large items anyway vs my legacy, perhaps i should just get
the Fit.
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
perhaps i should just get
the Fit.
IMO, get a Smart Car. $12K ... 40 mpg
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
ive seen teenagers install stereo systems at circuit city with better
results then what you've described. no scratches, no nothing..
so there IS at least 1 teenager with a future -? cool


Originally Posted by kenchan
im starting to think the Fits are kinda cool... ive been eyeing that
GTI wagon for a while, but not sure. it's going to be too small to
carry large items anyway vs my legacy, perhaps i should just get
the Fit.
dude, I have such great respect for you, why blow that now?

if I've ever seen a dorkier car, I'm having trouble thinking of it now....

Chows, I estimate those Smarts will be $15-$18 in reality unfortunately
(based on the BartMack unsupported speculation principle)
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:31 PM
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if I've ever seen a dorkier car, I'm having trouble thinking of it now....
wait-- there WAS that Suzuki wagon thingy...
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
IMO, get a Smart Car. $12K ... 40 mpg
yah, i wish...i see so many in Canada. very cool.

unfortunately im looking for something that can carry my kids
and wifey and me with some room for convenince items... like
strollers and diaper bags and such.

i have to say the level of service i got today has convinced
me to consider getting a honda for the 'other' daily driver.

the civic was originally leased to be used by the wife..and i
was to get my Legacy back when she was done traveling
crazy miles everyday (I own the Legacy). now she's almost
done i get my Legacy, but it's all scratched up, damaged by
the subaru dealer, and hvac not working properly.
i think it's time kenchan gets something new.
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BartMack
dude, I have such great respect for you, why blow that now?

if I've ever seen a dorkier car, I'm having trouble thinking of it now....

Chows, I estimate those Smarts will be $15-$18 in reality unfortunately
(based on the BartMack unsupported speculation principle)
lol wait a minute... it's not like im going to sell my cool cars for it.
its just a A to B car.

still no good?
 
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lol wait a minute... it's not like im going to sell my cool cars for it.
its just a A to B car.

still no good?
you won't ever have any trouble mistaking me for a Toyota fan, but in the inexpensive cool realm I have to give Scion an 'acceptable' rating

ie the next gen Xb looks like it would leave the Fit bleeding in a dark alley...

seriously, it's your money + decision, but I would never
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:51 PM
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hey- Volkswagen has been bragging that they have 3 VeeDubs for under $17k (or whatever)... they've taken so much heat they're probably at the point of dating any prospective buyer (and you wouldn't even have to lick the door handle lol)
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:59 PM
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you won't ever have any trouble mistaking me for a Toyota fan, but in the inexpensive cool realm I have to give Scion an 'acceptable' rating

ie the next gen Xb looks like it would leave the Fit bleeding in a dark alley...

seriously, it's your money + decision, but I would never
... yah, perhaps those little tinker cars are a little out of my
league in a backwards way. lol the pocket change price is
what's been catching my eyes... if it provides the similar convenience
as my legacy, 100x better service at the dealership, why not get a
new car with MT and save money on gas even?
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:04 PM
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hey- Volkswagen has been bragging that they have 3 VeeDubs for under $17k (or whatever)... they've taken so much heat they're probably at the point of dating any prospective buyer (and you wouldn't even have to lick the door handle lol)
yah, but they have poor milage for what they are, right? so if i was to
get that, i would get the GTI wagon... much cooler ride, but more expensive.

im just not sure about the durability/reliability of those cars. im sure
i'll like it though, but the bad mpg and premium gas would be a pita
as far as maintenance cost as far as daily drivers. i dont care how
fast they are. i just want convenience, good mpg, a nice stereo, MT,
and at least fun to drive.
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:29 PM
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IMO you need a Clubman
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BartMack
IMO you need a Clubman
that thing looks like a funeral car though....
 
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Originally Posted by BartMack
Chows, I estimate those Smarts will be $15-$18 in reality unfortunately
(based on the BartMack unsupported speculation principle)
You can put a deposit on them now for $99, delivery in the Spring of 2008. $12K, $14K (nicely equipped), $17K cabrio

Of course, dealers might mark them up.

But for $15K, Ken can get a new Corolla
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:54 PM
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But for $15K, Ken can get a new Corolla



no way!
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:26 PM
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gas was $3.47 for regular... $37.5 to fill up my civic from about 1/8 left.
(i think it's either a 13 or 14 gal tank). I can get about 450miles per fill
up on surface roads which is about 34-35mpg. ($0.08 per mile in real world)

premium was $3.89... considering my G has a 20gallon, with 2.5gallons
left it can go as high as $68 per fillup and get maybe 350miles
($0.19 per mile in real world).

Legacy with regular gas, 16gallon fill up costs over $55 which is about
$0.14/mile in real world.

When you look at it per mile, wife was getting over $1300/mn in
reimbursements for the Legacy each month the last 6-7months.
Since I only keep cars up to 30K miles or 3-4yrs max, we
just keep the reimbursements in the bank for future car purchase
and i just do oil changes and easy maintenance.

Legacy: $0.14/mile x 3000+ miles = $420 spent in gas/month
($880/month x 6 = $5280 saved in bank)

If she used the Civic: $0.08/mile x 3000+ miles = $240 spent in gas/month
($1060/month x 6 = $6360 saved in bank)

That's a difference of $1080 if she would've had a more fuel efficient
car... that's huge considering she's not doing anything different between
the civic and legacy. plus on a Honda, you get good resale value...

basically what im saying is that i made a mistake to let her use the
Legacy.
 

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Old 05-21-2007, 12:50 PM
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got a call from Honda today noting that the mount arrived.

will bring her in again tomorrow morning before work. hope to have it
fixed by end of day (they say they need half a day to schedule me
in).
 
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:51 PM
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Bart-btw, im not going to do the Fit. it's too small.

either GTI wagon (has been my first choice for a while), or the Element SC both in MT, ofcourse... or just live with the legacy.

i called my dealer trying to setup my actuator fix appointment
only to have them hang up on me when they transferred the call.
wtf, subaru. lol
 
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Originally Posted by early_apex
You need a Lexus (built in J)

Lexus [Read Fancy pants overpriced Toyotas]
 
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:46 AM
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alright... now my civic is in the good hands of Honda... keeping my
fingers crossed.
 
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scheduled to go in to get my MCS's coolant flushed and AC looked
at tomorrow morning.

damn, i am on a roll!
 


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