Yes.

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me. As always, you're a voice of reason in chaotic times.

 

While we're on the subject of politics, who is everyone voting for??


KIDDING. Don't worry.

 

D. None of the Above.

 

I think I need to come back home...

 

You know, I was reading this thing about the California engine numbers and I have one question.

Let's say I live and California, and am looking to buy a used car. There is a guy down the street who just moved into the state, his car passed smog, and now he is looking to sell it. I buy it and go about my business.

I get pulled over and for whatever reason I get one of these engine inspections. What happens if the VIN and engine number don't match? I realized there is the sales reciept and other issue going on, but there does come a point where something this stupid has to be changed?? Not every state has this kind of law, and unless you specifically now about it, you could be breaking it without knowing it. And before I get the "ignorance is no excuse" rant, does ANYONE know EVERY law that is in the California VC, or any states VC for that matter?

...just asking...

 

Actually, if you are wanting to get the most value in resale, a non modded car will have the best resale. I don't see too many concourse winners that are modded in any way

 

There is none so dangerous as the self-righteous; and none who protest more when their own views ensnare them.

 

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ya thats true, but i do see a lot of people going crazy over minis they see for sale with all the extras on them and are willing to pay a lil more for them...anyway that wasnt the point of what was being said, read on through the tthread

 

Tis the wisdom of Quagmire

giggety giggety goo!

 

There is also none so dangerous as people that don't belive in absolutes. Until their own beliefs are threatened.

 

Desert Sand

The answer to your question may be found in post # 152 by MaxN. I think most states have laws like this to protect you the buyer. As always though---Buyer Beware.

 

The value of a modded car. What do you think happens to the value of a 1929 Duesenberg with a transplanted 409 Chev motor? The modded Mini is different of course, but in most cases, an original car will retain it's value much better.

 

Dear Sir Are you saying that by using their power the police were stupid?

 

Doesn't sound like it protected anyone. If it was me, and they towed my car, I wouldn't feel protected...I'd feel scr*wed!!

I had a truck when I was out in there in the PRK, and it had the non-factory motor in it when I purchased it, and then I changed the motor about 6 months later. Nobody EVER told me about informing the DMV or any other such thing. If I hadn't seen the chapter and verse quoted here, I STILL wouldn't know (but I really wouldn't care now). Point being, a law such as this is NOT often common knowledge....and that buyer beware don't cut it.

 

Maybe abusing their power, yes......

 

More to the point, a mismatched serial number may indicate the possibility of a stolen part, it is not conclusive evidence of it. Selective enforcement of the law is an abuse of power.

 

And finally after re-reading post #152 again, the law states that the VIN and the engine number have to be on the ownership paperwork. I just looked at my registration on all 6 of my vehicles, and not ONE has the engine serial number listed on it. So, I think that law has more holes in it than the proverbial Swiss cheese.

 

Read it one more time. I do not believe that is what it says. This law is only for cars with an engine swap. Looks like a new number is affixed to the vehicle with the replacement engine and that is the number on the paperwork. Also please note that when applying for title you must prove ownership of the engine. Produce a valid reciept. There is only one reason for this requirement and that is to protect the new owner down the road from buying a vehicle with a stolen engine. The law is looking out for you if you will just be aware and responsible. I am not a lawyer or a DMV employee. Maybe a call to the DMV would be in order if you have a question. Won't cost anything and you could then post valid information for all of us.

 

Good afternoon Mr. LynnEl. You are right in regard to the possibility of a stolen part. That's why these laws exist. Selective enforcement is not an abuse of power. The police are empowered to enforce the law. They did just that in the case of the 150 cars causing havoc. They selected the 150 who were the trouble makers.

 

The protection was provided, by law, prior to the purchase of the car with the stolen engine. The owner was scr##wed, but not by the police.

 

Contrary to your comment, selective enforcement IS an abuse of power as a legal fact. It was on just such principle that many municipalities were forced to stop "random" checkpoints until they developed procedures to ensure there was no selective enforcement. I've been called a "trouble-maker" simply for being somewhere with long hair. Yet, a beer-guzzling yokel harassing people in the parking lot was just a local fella relaxing. So, because someone once had an engine swapped, they are a trouble-maker? I sure hope you aren't a cop.

 

I am not a Police Officer. Are you a lawyer?

 

No, but I have spent 12 years writing legal briefs for a lawyer.