Official NorCal Check-In!!
3rd Gear
Joined: Aug 2011
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From: Petaluma, California
I know this is a few months old, but thought I'd throw my info out there!
Ryan
2008 MCS
Silver
I go to school in Rohnert Park (Sonoma State), live in Petaluma during the school year, and am at home in Pleasant Hill during summer and whatnot.
Ryan
2008 MCS
Silver
I go to school in Rohnert Park (Sonoma State), live in Petaluma during the school year, and am at home in Pleasant Hill during summer and whatnot.
We are planning on setting up monthly meets here at the shop. Last friday of every month.
Keep posted on the site - www.vinylstyles.com
Keep posted on the site - www.vinylstyles.com
Alliance Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 661
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From: Port Orchard, WA.
Driving Lamps & the CHP
Hi you to all Calif MINI owners.
I did not know where to Post this so I put it here.
What are California's regs regarding uncovered driving lamps and fog lamps? I am planning a trip through the Bay area and then on south to San Diego, from Seattle. Love to know your thoughts!
Thanks in advance.
I did not know where to Post this so I put it here.
What are California's regs regarding uncovered driving lamps and fog lamps? I am planning a trip through the Bay area and then on south to San Diego, from Seattle. Love to know your thoughts!
Thanks in advance.
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 557
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From: San Francisco Bay Area
Driving Lamps & the CHP
V C Section 24402 Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam.
V C Section 24405 Maximum Number of Lamps
Maximum Number of Lamps
24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any authorized emergency vehicle.
V C Section 24411 Auxiliary Lamps Off Highway Use
Auxiliary Lamps: Off-Highway Use
24411. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle may be equipped with not more than eight lamps for use as headlamps while the vehicle is operated or driven off the highway. The lamps shall be mounted at a height of not less than 16 inches from the ground, or more than 12 inches above the top of the passenger compartment, at any place between the front of the vehicle and a line lying on a point 40 inches to the rear of the seat occupied by the driver, shall be wired independently of all other lighting circuits, and, whenever the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway, shall be covered or hooded with an opaque hood or cover, and turned off.
Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam.
V C Section 24405 Maximum Number of Lamps
Maximum Number of Lamps
24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any authorized emergency vehicle.
V C Section 24411 Auxiliary Lamps Off Highway Use
Auxiliary Lamps: Off-Highway Use
24411. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle may be equipped with not more than eight lamps for use as headlamps while the vehicle is operated or driven off the highway. The lamps shall be mounted at a height of not less than 16 inches from the ground, or more than 12 inches above the top of the passenger compartment, at any place between the front of the vehicle and a line lying on a point 40 inches to the rear of the seat occupied by the driver, shall be wired independently of all other lighting circuits, and, whenever the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway, shall be covered or hooded with an opaque hood or cover, and turned off.
Alliance Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 661
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From: Port Orchard, WA.
V C Section 24402 Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam.
V C Section 24405 Maximum Number of Lamps
Maximum Number of Lamps
24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any authorized emergency vehicle.
V C Section 24411 Auxiliary Lamps Off Highway Use
Auxiliary Lamps: Off-Highway Use
24411. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle may be equipped with not more than eight lamps for use as headlamps while the vehicle is operated or driven off the highway. The lamps shall be mounted at a height of not less than 16 inches from the ground, or more than 12 inches above the top of the passenger compartment, at any place between the front of the vehicle and a line lying on a point 40 inches to the rear of the seat occupied by the driver, shall be wired independently of all other lighting circuits, and, whenever the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway, shall be covered or hooded with an opaque hood or cover, and turned off.
Auxiliary Driving and Passing Lamps
24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not be lighted with the lower beam.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches. Passing lamps are lamps designed for supplementing the lower beam from headlamps and may also be lighted with the upper beam.
V C Section 24405 Maximum Number of Lamps
Maximum Number of Lamps
24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any authorized emergency vehicle.
V C Section 24411 Auxiliary Lamps Off Highway Use
Auxiliary Lamps: Off-Highway Use
24411. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle may be equipped with not more than eight lamps for use as headlamps while the vehicle is operated or driven off the highway. The lamps shall be mounted at a height of not less than 16 inches from the ground, or more than 12 inches above the top of the passenger compartment, at any place between the front of the vehicle and a line lying on a point 40 inches to the rear of the seat occupied by the driver, shall be wired independently of all other lighting circuits, and, whenever the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway, shall be covered or hooded with an opaque hood or cover, and turned off.
It appears that the MINI's factory fogs are way below the 24 inch required minimum and the factory driving lamps are also to low since the bottom edge of the lamps are 23 inches. An officer with a tape measure and a headache could cause grief!!
So the foggiest part of my trip (southern I-5 and the big Sur Coast) I will not be able to use Fogs. Whoopee for California for creating an unsafe condition with the stroke of a pencil!
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 557
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From: San Francisco Bay Area
Driving Lamps & the CHP
I believe the OEM front fogs have an exemption, for CA, on height much like the pre-05 rear fog lights did.
I didn't realize the factory installed driving lights. You would think they would have an exemption as well and be legal.
My guess is if you have just two extra lights you'll most likely be okay. Just bring a pair of caps in case.
Having said that this is California so all bets are off.
Enjoy the ride!
I didn't realize the factory installed driving lights. You would think they would have an exemption as well and be legal.
My guess is if you have just two extra lights you'll most likely be okay. Just bring a pair of caps in case.
Having said that this is California so all bets are off.
Enjoy the ride!
Alliance Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 661
Likes: 24
From: Port Orchard, WA.
LOL! Yes, the late great state of mind called California!
I was escorted to a local PD so the officer could get a tape measure and his code book to go over my '59 Bugeye Sprite in 1964, and I doubt that that sort of mentality has changed
Thanks again for the input. I will throw in a couple of pairs of Hella Caps, and maybe a case of doughnuts
S.
I was escorted to a local PD so the officer could get a tape measure and his code book to go over my '59 Bugeye Sprite in 1964, and I doubt that that sort of mentality has changed
Thanks again for the input. I will throw in a couple of pairs of Hella Caps, and maybe a case of doughnuts
S.
I believe the OEM front fogs have an exemption, for CA, on height much like the pre-05 rear fog lights did.
I didn't realize the factory installed driving lights. You would think they would have an exemption as well and be legal.
My guess is if you have just two extra lights you'll most likely be okay. Just bring a pair of caps in case.
Having said that this is California so all bets are off.
Enjoy the ride!
I didn't realize the factory installed driving lights. You would think they would have an exemption as well and be legal.
My guess is if you have just two extra lights you'll most likely be okay. Just bring a pair of caps in case.
Having said that this is California so all bets are off.
Enjoy the ride!
5th Gear
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 750
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area
We are planning on setting up monthly meets here at the shop. Last friday of every month.
Keep posted on the site - www.vinylstyles.com
Keep posted on the site - www.vinylstyles.com
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