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Old May 5, 2026 | 01:20 PM
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Non hk to hk amp swap amd numerous other questions

Looking to improve my audio, I've tried better speakers and stuff but thr problem is my output source.
my 13' r58 has non hk amp underneath the drivers seat and unfortunately the hk is not plug and play..
is there anyway to run the hk amp with my setup or am i going to have to remove the stock non hk amp and run an aftermarket one ??
imo the standard hk setup is hard to beat so I'm testing to get equally as nice or better sound quality.
I also have the GPS screen option , every aftermarket like android screen/head unit ALL say they don't work with the GPS/screen optioned cars.. is that true?? I swear it can't be
also , are these the speakers outputs from the amp ? I'm wondering for when and if I have to run an aftermarket amp.

 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 02:53 PM
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I would just go aftermarket. Decent speakers with a mid-range 4-channel amp would probably sound much better. Then get a small pre-packaged sub to stick somewhere.

Or….. just screw it, and enjoy the mechanical cacophony of noises from the car.
 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 07:43 PM
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I would just go aftermarket. Decent speakers with a mid-range 4-channel amp would probably sound much better. Then get a small pre-packaged sub to stick somewhere.

Or….. just screw it, and enjoy the mechanical cacophony of noises from the car.
o I absolutely love my hurricane engine sound but on long drives I do enjoy some music when i get into areas with no talk radio( heavy metal & progressive)..
plus my daughter always likes listening to music when shes riding with me and im sick of hearing those rear 6x9s rattle as much as they produce bass because theur voice coils are probably loose..i installed in the front 6.5im 2ohm 75watt rms 300wattmax speakers with a crossover and tweerers and they do actually sound better than the hk speakers so I'd like to run the same speaker setup but 6x9s in the rear and have a good powersource , which I'd have to look into more to fit in mounting area and match the speakers power.
I think a good mid/highrange amp powering the door speakers/tweerters and rears along with an under seat subwoofer or even a 6in sub in the trunk. facing through the fold down door that id remove.
but in that pic I uploaded, are those the speaker outputs ? Im trying to locate their main source out so that I can run the aftermarket amp right there to power them..
 
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Old May 29, 2026 | 09:36 PM
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Can't answer your question about the wires, my LCI came without HK.

However, I would like to state that one of the things I learned from trying to improve the sound of my non-HK equipped LCI was that the rear speaker recesses are unsuitable for any worthwile bass reproduction: low bass frequencies at moderate volume as well as medium bass frequencies at high volume cause the outer rear panels to vibrate audibly. Since only the front third of the panels is accessible from the inside, there is no way to dampen the area concerned.

Combined with the fact that non-bass frequencies are directional (i.e. you can hear where they are coming from) and me preferring them coming from the front, I regret both the cost and the (enormous) effort of replacing the rear speakers. My advice is hence to not touch the rear speakers at all and concentrate all efforts (time and money) on improving the sound in the front.

This includes or rather, necessitates completely (!) disasembling the front doors in order to adequately dampen them (both the outer panels as well as the rear sides of the interior panels) if you want any kind of bass without sacrificing boot space.

Using a DSP (preferably per-channel capable) is also recommendable in order to adjust the sound output to your own preference.

Please note: my objectives in improving the sound system were not to play music at ridiculous volume levels. My goal was to be able to play full-range (i.e. including low bass frequencies) a bit louder than stock.

PS: Have you read this very informative thread?
 
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Old May 31, 2026 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by giorgos
Can't answer your question about the wires, my LCI came without HK.

However, I would like to state that one of the things I learned from trying to improve the sound of my non-HK equipped LCI was that the rear speaker recesses are unsuitable for any worthwile bass reproduction: low bass frequencies at moderate volume as well as medium bass frequencies at high volume cause the outer rear panels to vibrate audibly. Since only the front third of the panels is accessible from the inside, there is no way to dampen the area concerned.

Combined with the fact that non-bass frequencies are directional (i.e. you can hear where they are coming from) and me preferring them coming from the front, I regret both the cost and the (enormous) effort of replacing the rear speakers. My advice is hence to not touch the rear speakers at all and concentrate all efforts (time and money) on improving the sound in the front.

This includes or rather, necessitates completely (!) disasembling the front doors in order to adequately dampen them (both the outer panels as well as the rear sides of the interior panels) if you want any kind of bass without sacrificing boot space.

Using a DSP (preferably per-channel capable) is also recommendable in order to adjust the sound output to your own preference.

Please note: my objectives in improving the sound system were not to play music at ridiculous volume levels. My goal was to be able to play full-range (i.e. including low bass frequencies) a bit louder than stock.

PS: Have you read this very informative thread?
thx I have..
Do you think the r58 rear speakers are better suited because of their placement area ? I know atleast the best sounding r series stereos imo are in the r58. Either the smaller cabin , forward facing speakers right behind you or maybe the speakers mounts.. but either way , I love how deep a good sounding r58 system can be.
 
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Old May 31, 2026 | 09:55 PM
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Darn! I completely missed you asking about an R58...

Sorry, no clue. Since the rear speakers are mounted within separate enclosures and are further away from the rear panels they may well be better suited for bass reproduction than in the R56. It may also be the case that the rear outer panels are better accessible from the inside (for damping purposes, in case they too vibrate). Maybe someone who has upgraded their R58 chimes in.
 
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